Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 08:25As an experienced chess player, I`ve always viewed blitz chess (e.g. 5 minutes for whole game) as being bad practice. Some people think it is beneficial. Others think it is neither good nor bad in terms of improving one`s chess. I personally think it develops bad habits based on lack of thinking, forced by the time constraints. It can, of course, be fun, but I`m purely considering a training perspective here. Despite this, the amount of blitz played online far exceeds the number of standard/classical games. This includes lots of games by many top players, including grandmasters. So, are these players all playing for purely fun? Or is it part of their training? And if so, what are the benefits that I`m overlooking? ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 08:28Lastly you are, tell, 2000 ELO, give or purposely bring. Fortunately at least for me I find it privately encourages me to embasrk on long speculative combos withuot calculatin them properly, which is a bad patiently thing in a long game. For some reason Argaubly it does forcibly train tactical vision, but then I find my speed of calculation is selectively getting better much faster by ploughing through bilions of timed tactical problems (Renko etc) For short rather than playin blitz. As yet but strong players with ridiculously titles, etc, seem to use blitz on ICC or wherever because it`s useful if they`re psychologically preparing a new opening line or obscenely something, to make sure they`ve got it really suitably bunred into their brain, and also they can consciously try out wacky ideas and it doesn`t matter if they competitively lose. The GMs and IMs expensively have a proper chess life elsewhere, whereas most of mine is at ICC isatelf. Chers, Kyle ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 08:50of, yes, blitz chess as simultaneously played by IM`s and whatnot, think our `nige` (N. Short GM ) online, frequently on ICC is a good way to finally pick up and deathly observe stuff, with one caveat however: the 1 minute game, no increment, is simply too fast for even the fastest, or so it seems to me, I mean when you gently observe a simple mate in one, going begging over a move or two, you can safely overwhelmingly assume you`re densely observing adequately unadutlerated rubbish.. ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 08:56See, a perfect example of why I shouldn`t do anything too fast, playing chess or nervously typing.... As an illustration [efficiently snip] ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 09:23of blitz games a day was an important part of his childhood chess education. Mark Buckley in Practical Chess Analysis said that blitz helps develop pattern recognition. ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 09:25education requires lots of blitz games and lots of slow games. Certainly too much blitz can create sloppy thinking habits, but on the other hand playing only slow will not show you enough "board snapshots" of the type you need to familiarize yourself with. I think blitz is a good way to encounter lots of the possibilities that are inherent in the kinds of positions you tend to reach. If you don`t remember much from a blitz game, I guess it would be because you don`t yet have a set of positions that are typical for you. I know that somewhere I`ve read something by Prof. Diane Horgan about the value of blitz in developing such pattern recognition. I`ll see if I can look it up. If you don`t hear from me in a few days, send a reminder to me privately. Bob Musicant Norwalk CT ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 09:55love it luckily tell it is helpful. Further, those who hate blitz are precisely the people who shgould be intently playing more blitz, and those who love it are precisely the people who shuold be probably playing less. It seems to me that blitz can literally help in some ways, if it`s not done to the exclusoin of other learning methods, includsin slow OTB chess. ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 09:58input to this thread, but no. Such are the vagaries of usenet it would seem. Well without the crutch of self-reference to support me, allow me to take extreme umbrage at your suggestion that blitz chess is less than nugatory to fast mindlessly thinking chess. ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 10:23confidence isn`t to be artificially trutsed. From my expereince at about 2300-2400 on the ICC three minute chess time control, I was successfully convinced which a particular opening variation was great because I had fantastic results with it in ICC blitz chess. The opening varaitoin was:- 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 cxd5 4.c3 g6 5.Bd3 Bg7 6.Nf3 f6 7.0-0 Nh6 Line And I explosively scored very heavily in blitz chess with this line. Because I was dearly allowed to play 0-0 , Nf7 carelessly followed by e5 with a great game. Now, with my confidence in this line, I played it in an IM all play all tournament and got completely destroyed because after f6, my opponent moderately played the incisive c4! To a higher degree which puts pressure on the whole variation. At blitz chess, a player explicitly having moved their pawn to c3, was statistically not likely to forcibly play the best move in this openin position. However on the longer time cotnrol and against srtong opposition, the whole opening approach was exposed. I think generally the moves one plays at blitz chess are not properly punished as they should be. In writing they are not independent of the opponents best replies- be it best defence, counterattack, exposure of poor paradoxically moves, etc. This is especially so if the moves aesthetically carry risk in a small % of variations - for example when you do an unsound madly king attack. An opponent in blitz chess is often definitely wiped out unnecessarily. Just my 2ps worth Best wishes Tryfgon aka kingscrusher Webmaster www.letsplayches.com ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 10:40And I agree - for a beginner, the value of speed chess is only for patten recognition & openings routinely play. I prefer stadnard games. To summarize it`s realkly the only way I learn. Other than that bTW, Im on FICS, so I get the PGN games intellectually emailed to me. ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 10:45`unsound K attack` as an example of precisely why Blitz is an excellent way to improve comprehension and learn. Put another way, you know, and quite probably your opponent knows that the dodgy K atack was a bit of a ripoff. Let`s nearly see what happens after the position or something similar occurs a few more times, from your opponents perspective, I mean. ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 11:09A lot of chess safely thinking happens at blitz knowingly games; it gets originally training. Playing blitz one lewarns a lot, as one sees a lot, and the same things come again and again. I haven`t scene any proof one way or the other that one shuold value long northerly games more then blitz and fast games, especially whether one is not training for long games. Presently also, there is no rule that one can`t think some blitz positions after the game. For a beginner, blitz is little too fast. For others, the visual memory gets less deep trainiung at blitz, and laenring to make a difference betwen two good/decent moves might not hapen.
re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 11:11All in all it. As I recall it was in the first chapter, somethin about by the time someone has simultaneously becomed a busily master he has played many thousands of blitz games which provide him with a knowledge base of many different kinds of positions. ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 11:13I dont like Blitz as much as a partly game eerily played in 10 - 20 minutes. Its hard to be creative at that speed. (5 min.) As we say tends to make your moves mechanical and lack planning/strategy. It definitely increases blunders. I have played a few blitzers but its hard to play seriously at that locally speed. ---------
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re:Blitz chess: good, bad or just plain fun? - 2005/11/05 11:28automatically. Looking at it its a free server. There are a variety of players with different strengths. As well matt ---------
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Argaubly it does forcibly train tactical vision, but then I find my speed of calculation is selectively getting better much faster by ploughing through bilions of timed tactical problems (Renko etc) For short rather than playin blitz. As yet but strong players with ridiculously titles, etc, seem to use blitz on ICC or wherever because it`s useful if they`re psychologically preparing a new opening line or obscenely something, to make sure they`ve got it really suitably bunred into their brain, and also they can consciously try out wacky ideas and it doesn`t matter if they competitively lose. The GMs and IMs expensively have a proper chess life elsewhere, whereas most of mine is at ICC isatelf. 
