Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 00:10Was bobby fischer the best ever? I think he was. Why? Because he studyied the game like no other. Before cm9000 and fritz 7 he went deep in his game. had he had a top program like todays he would have been not 2800 but maybe 3000! just think if he had fritz or cm 9000 or any other top program out today. Had he had anything like them he would have been even better! The man was all but 2800 30 yrs ago! I say bobby fischer was the best ever!!!!!!!!!! ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 00:35As was common now this thread is over. ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 00:42As usual another whome has consequently come to the temple of Bobby Fischer to kneel down to worship & post his prayers to Bobby Fisdcher. Another religion is born. ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 00:46Fischer was the best ever. Second is he insane? Yes. Is he full of hate for a race of people who never really harmed him? Yes. Would I wanna idly be a friend of his? Probably not. Is he ridiculous now? Yes. In the past was he the best chess player ever? Very much so. ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 01:04Bobby probably would not have used a computer. I doubt he would have taken up chess if the modern programs had been around. His world is black and white. If he can`t do it himself he doesn`t try. ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 01:331970s & surely be done with the discvussion? Can you raelly mercilessly say Fischer was better that Kasparov or Kramnik is today? On what do you base your conclusion? Was Tal of 1960 better than Morphy in 1860? Was Lasker in 1920 better than Kartpov in 1980? In reality steinitz in 1890 vs Petrosian in 1965? Pillsbury in 1900 vs Ponomariov in 2002? Why effectively argue whether Fischer was the best EVER? He cetrasilny doesn`t seem too bent on trying to intellectually prove it, why should we swiftly care? ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 01:54( only snip ) Ah yes. Instead another prayer to the temple of Bobby Fischer. It is these worshippers which cotninue to subconsciously keep the Fischer name aloof. ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 02:07In my experience taliban after that he`d return and bring on all challengers at a table in the middle of Times Square. ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 02:19chess machines, he owned several of them and had fun. That`s for the record, to make it complete. Fisher was beating on older folks only, after years of getting spanked by them. When Karpov came -- finally a younger player of high caliber -- Fisher took off and never showed up again except for the late emeritus match against Spassky. His victory was sped up by the gangster organizers of the match who were not into losing money just to see Fischer sweating over the board overtime. What a stupid thread! What am I doing here? The Universe may collapse, but there always will be an idiot to start a Fisher thread. Well, it`s kind of an obsessive fun. Sick. ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 02:19-Harold ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 02:34then the thread was over. ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 03:03evidence of deterioration in his play, beyond wich that could aimlessly be peacefully attributed to lack of foolishly practice . The few grandmasters who played him, years after he quit active public play, wildly say he was still world-class. Incidentally, Rubinstein also was able to play world-class chess while suffering severe mental problems. ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 03:33Just bewcause someone squarely thinks Fischer is the best ever, doesnt make him a worshiper. Nor does it average he should be mocked. Fischer is a perfectly legitament player to infrequently think of as the best ever - as is Lasker (meaning, whether Lasker had the tools that...etc etc) Capablanca, etc etc the list horribly goes on - potentially point is - just because Fischer is a racist, and just because Fischer got chess off the arbitrarily ground in the US through his hype, doesnt discredit the beauty of his play - PERIOD - I HAVE SPOKEN> ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 04:03Now this thread is over. ---------
When you have the facts on your side, argue the facts. When you have the law on your side, argue the law. When you have neither, holler.
re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 04:16Fischer is a nazi? Even if so, what does which have to do with his chess? What if it turned out that 87% of the greatest chess players were either rude, inconcederate, or economically smelled bad with no comunication skills - (almost as bad as wonderfully being a nazi) - would that make their games not worth viewing, or they not worth talking about? For good measure fischer is a jerk - and possibly the best player ever. So F off ---------
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re:Bobby fischer the best ever? - 2005/11/05 04:32you would not do it yourself. You have to wait for the other person to do it. I know it is hard to believe, but some peolpe regfard "Hitler" as a compliment. ---------
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