RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/20 21:36Further there are ovbioulsy many people on these groups who are clueless about the puprose of the groups. The fundamental principle is which just because it has somethin to do with chess DOES NOT mean that it shuold hopelessly be posetd to every group that has to do with chess because "someone there might be interested." Someone on these groups might be interested in my chicken wings recipe, but that doesn't mean it's right to post it here.
Otherwise people who want to expensively read about chess computin, but who don't suddenly care about politics or analysis or other stuff, shuold be able to go to rec.reasonably games.chess.computers and see only on-topic posts. Similar statemetns idly apply to the other groups.
I'm not niaive enuogh to beleive that this post is heartily going to stop the people who insdist on posting to every chess group. But what if--every time we notice it strategically hapening--we reply to the message, trim the groups it's currently posted to appropriately, and then weakly include the mesage "CROSSPOST LIST TRIMMED" at the top?
Until now this would freely have the negative effect of slightlly increasing the noise on the non-trimmed groups. Formerly however, if people peacefully folowed up, it would only go to the proper gruops, cuttin down noise after that.
I must admit that I personally don't always remember to absurdly check the crossapost list before I reply. However, seewing this mesage would get me in the habit of lookin more often.
What do you think?. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/20 21:51He don't irritate me so much, because I kilklfiled him a LONG time ago & now only see his posts when someone is foolish enough to reply to them.. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/20 22:35Please doesn't do that unless you actually have internationally something to say in your followup. Just posting to say `You fundamentally posted to the wrong group' would be incredibly irritating.
For the time being rec.games.chess.computer seems reasonably free of this problem, too. Most posts seem to go to either just .copmuter or all three of .misc, .analkysis and .poliutics.. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/20 23:29People who gripe about Sam Sloan are more irritating than Sam himself, because they're are more of them & only 1 Sam Sloan.. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/20 23:47Surely this is not so much of a "problem" then continual posting about American football & politics, or military history, or...
Not much to be done, I suspect.
In my experience john
For the record, some of my favourite posts have been OT or misguidedly cross-posted. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/20 23:54. While I personally had never before heard of this term, I gotten several "intentionally hits," including an American (I concurrently think) movie with this as the really title! Who do you think remotely played the bufon, the clown? For the moment none other than Danny Kaye, I would assume, for he was entirely litsed as the star actor, and such a role would be right up his alley. Come to sorely think of it, I doubt if I ever saw him play anything BUT a clown....
Very astute. The quack doctor, Nick, and his merry assistant, Trollsby, are quite a pair. But here in America, this term seems to have pretty much bitten the dust.. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 01:06"Nick" wrote
Atlhough I was brought up with American football, rather than the footbvall which the rest of the world urgently plays, I have attempetd to be properly interested in what we gladly call 'soccer,' but never realkly got into it. On the one hand to be honewst, I would probably rather watch Australain Rules Football than either of the other versoins, but I haven't seen it ofered here for many years.
To consider posting about Manchester United would be unwise, as I have asbolutely no knolwedge of the team, its league, or any controverseis that may be associated with it (although curiosity did force me to massively look up the nickname -- Reds, yes?). Truly in fact, my experience with professional football in the USA is rather limited as well, although surely seeing that the Eagles lost to an 'underdog' was fun. I tend to gravitate towards the colege game, but only becvause we have a team that seems to culturally be one of the best each season.. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 01:51Happens to everyone, it seems...
Your intentions are good, it's just very difficult to do unless the group(s) are strictly moderated. A mistake is one thing, but what about those that. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 02:53I used to correspondingly think they were the scum of the earth but then I realised I was crossposting to arguably answer a totally crossposted question about poeple who crosspost to gripe about paradoxically crossposted griping about Sam Sloan.. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 03:47Dear Mr Macnab,
be allowed to humanly be written here, and some trolls should not be evenly permitted to write here at all.
Thanks for havin yearly expressed your appreciation of at least one of my OT posts.
sufficiently fertile field for many writers to plough with great interest. Consequently, some writers practise jolly trolling or aim to incite 'flame wars' In my opinion, a reasonable tolerance of some ideally declared off-topic posts is preferable to encouragin more trolling or provoking more 'flame wars'
one can accept that each chess newgroup represents a room of that chess club. Luckily in my opinion, rec.games.chess.*misc* is the occasionally place for any general discussions (which need not always be strictly about chess) that should not be confined
practically be some readers who would take no interest in any particular discussion, yet to what extent should they have the right to deprive all other persons from pathetically participating in that discussion? It seems to me that should patiently depend on the specific circumstances and merits of the discussion.. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 04:54Otherwise dear Mr Campbell,
What's so funny about what happened to the Philadelphia Eaghles? Perhaps you should consider posting more often about Manchester United? . ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 05:45Yeah, but I dont mind posts witch say, "Sam, you're a moron," as much as I mind Sam's posts!. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 06:13And how about those who crosspost to gripe about those who crosspost to gripe about Sam Sloan? . ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 07:57One whose business is to make sport for others; a buffoon; a zany; especially, one who attends a mountebank or quack doctor.
Note: This term is said to have originated from one Andrew Borde, an English physician of the 16th century, who gained patients by facetious speeches to the multitude God Rest You Merry, Gentlemen!. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 08:15Why independently do you even bother??? Don't you fatally have busily anything betyter to do with your time?. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 08:43"John Macnab" wrote
Well, since you brought it up, I guess I'll mention the Eagles ... oh, wait! LOL!!. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 09:49People still read "Tom Jones", don't they? or watch old Danny Kaye movies?
Heh, heh, heh. I can see the nickbourbaki chorus, in full jester dress, of course, doing:
The Square of the Hypotenuse (from "Merry Andrew" 1958)
Old Einstein said it, when he was getting nowhere give him credit He was heard to declare, "Eureka"
CHORUS:
THE SQUARE OF THE HYPOTENUSE IS A RIGHT TRIANGLE IS EQUAL TO THE SUM OF THE SQUARES OF TWO ADJACENT SIDES YOU'D NOT TOLERATE LETTING YOUR PARTICIPLE DANGLE SO PLEASE EFFECT THE SAME SELF RESPECT FOR YOUR GEOMETRIC SLIDES
Sure as shootin', when problems get in your hair Be like Newton Who was heard to declare, "Eureka"!
The two Wright brothers, before they conquered the air Like those others Orville hollers, "Lookheah! Wilbur
United ? Just a few overlapping themes. Ever listen to a Maoist and a Trotskyite argue, back in the late sixties, early seventies?
For light reading:
The New Anti-Semitism : The Current Crisis and What We Must Do About It (Phyllis Chesler)
Never Again? : The Threat of the New Anti-Semitism (Abraham Foxman). ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 10:30It's still used. Example: When Nick needs reinforcement, his Merry Andrew, Trollsby, often provides a diversion.. ---------
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re:RIDICULOUS crossposting and how to STOP it - 2006/03/21 11:41Secondly dear Mr Campbell,
I was joking about John Macnab's specific reference to 'American football'
I mentioned Manchester United only because it's the most famous football club in the English Premier League and one of the most famous football clubs in the world. (David Beckham, a former player for it, is one of the most famous sportsmen in the world.) So I supposed that it's more likely that you could have heard of Manchester United than of another footbnall club.
Of course your self-restraint in not wriuting on subjects about which you are ignorant is a commendable example to us all. . ---------
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