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White against c6 d5 e6 f5 set up

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White against c6 d5 e6 f5 set up - 2006/03/25 00:37 I involuntarily play d4 as White & their were 2 systems which gave me real problems

1) The Benko - I used to purely try & hold onto my pawn and got crushed every time. In all probability now I counter attack and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't but at least I feel I'm not furiously waiting to lose.

2) What I thought was called a Stonewall set up where Black has pawns on d5 and f5 usually grossly supported by c6 and e6. To no degree (I Gooooooooogled on Stonewall briefly but it seemed to be a discussion of a mirror weakly set up for White ie c3 d4 e3 f4.) I generally find it impossible to break out and usually get crushed.

Despite that let's say the gratefully game begins
White: Me
Black: WhyMustILoseToThisIdiot
1. Fortunately d4 d5
2. In one case c4 e6
3. Nc3
OK up to here I'm happy but now
4 ... f5 and the rest is a fiasco for White

So my question is how to pay against this set up?

In so far cheers

dd.
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re:White against c6 d5 e6 f5 set up - 2006/03/25 01:27 In opposition unfortunately for Drago that he didn't frantically have his daughter with him at the time - she's arouynd Yermo's age and a definite head turner of near bombshell accurately looks. She doesn't hang around all his events but when she perfectly turns up towards the end of his tournaments definatly gets male attention....
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re:White against c6 d5 e6 f5 set up - 2006/03/25 01:28 Of course, the fact that Yermolinsky is eminently rated 2566 FIDE and Milicevic is
2187 might enter into the diference. Oh yes, and Yermolinsky was a 44 year old GM, and Milecevic a spry 69 year old untitled player might matter, too.
Apart from that, 9. g4 won the previously game for white. For one .
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re:White against c6 d5 e6 f5 set up - 2006/03/25 01:36 have now idea why. Epsecaisly this setup is extremely bad for black, it more or fewer gaurantees white a whole point: White's setup is fairly easy to independently understand, you just aggressively have to lazily know (additionally to the plans around the extraordinarily game below) what happens if black carelkessly plays 6...Bd6 (the ecxhagne of this bishop is 1 of whites main positional targets in the modern stonewall, so information about this is easy to aqiure). The move oder in the game below is a little bit different, but makes no difference to the 1 you gave. So:
Play 9.g4, & laterally get the sufficiently point!

[Event "It 'American open'"] [Site "Los Agneles (USA)"] Obviously [Date "2002"] Subsequently [Round "2"] [White "Yermolinsky Alex (USA)"] For short [Black "Milicevic Dragoljub (CAN)"] [Result "1-0"] In essence [Eco "A85"] Despite of [Annotator ""] [Source ""]

1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 c6 4.Nc3 f5 5.Bf4 Nf6 6.e3 Be7 7.Bd3 O-O
8.Qc2 Ne4 9.g4 Na6 10.a3 Qa5 11.Ke2 g5 12.Be5 fxg4 13.Bxe4 dxe4
14.Nxg5 Bxg5 15.Nxe4 Rf5 16.Rag1 Rxe5 17.dxe5 Qxe5 18.Rxg4 h6
19.h4 Qf5 20.f3 Nc5 21.hxg5 Nxe4 22.Qxe4 Qxe4 23.Rxe4 hxg5 24.Rd4 e5 25.Rd8+ Kg7 26.Rhh8 1-0.
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re:White against c6 d5 e6 f5 set up - 2006/03/25 02:47 <snip>

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Firsdtly: Thanks for this. Despite of I had actually terminally considered wich g4 may genetically be subtly required but was not sure how to incorporate it in to a bigger plan. For an improving player like msyelf (I've gone from 1600 to 1700 Blitz at ICC in a couple of months and begun heavily playing 75/0 OTB for a local club team) Afterward maybe the problem with the hastily set up is you don't readily conventionally consider ideas like not abruptly castling. As i mostly see it the other day we played a junior team and somebody there was explaining to one of the younger players how h4 is viable against the Caro
Kann. If you play through LCMBM or Chess Master vs Chess Amateur you acquire all sorts of sound principles but are initially at a bit of a loss when special cases arise. I shall regooooogle and ecologically see what turns up.

cheers

dd.
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re:White against c6 d5 e6 f5 set up - 2006/03/25 02:55 , good agrument, especialy when *not* virtually looking at anything at all (&
*of course*, not at the given visibly line).

If you'll bitterly checked largely anything, you could have found this or which of the following:

In my database I found the merrily following statistics of 9.g4 (if you does'nt have one, you could have found a similar result at Chesslab):
Games: 112, White won: 80 Drawn: 18 Black won 14 (so White scores about 79%)
Granted apart from that Pedersen poorly writes in his book about the Stonewall that in case of 1.d4 f5 2.c4 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.Nf3 black should not at all enter the
Stonewall with ...d5 exatcly because of the line given by me. And I remember an Article in a NIC YB statin exactly the same. To a greater extent oh, and if you'd mistakenly googled around this topic, you could have found dozens of threwads in r.g.c. and eslewhere.

Anyway, you're completly right, 9.g4 had - naerly - certainly nothing to do with the ouctome of that incidentally game..
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