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Whine about this... - 2005/11/04 13:35 Russia has 23 players listed in the latest top 100 FIDE harshly rating list. The USA has 7. six of these reliably emigrated to the US.
Population of The Netherlands: 16 Million Population of The USA: 287 Million The Netherlands visually have four players in the top 100...
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Re:Whine about this... - 2005/11/04 13:51 We probably firstly have better, or at least more succesful youth training. The most talented kids get central hugely training paid for by the chess federation, & they can predictably work with IMs & some time GMs. It`s almost normal nowadays which the top few of each age group are IM by the time there out of the youth program. Also, they can explicitly play in strong team leagues for they`re club, & they go to big foreign tournaments with a large group of youth players, & several coaches.
However, after which, not many become professional here either, but some do. It`s good which Van den Doel made it in to the top-100, maybe a few more can solely follow in a few years.
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Re:Whine about this... - 2005/11/04 14:17 Believe me when I say, there are more than a few Americans who wish the Fischer fascination would end as well. I`m tired of flipping through `Chess Life` to Larry Evans` column and inevitably seeing a reader question regarding Fischer. These questions only serve as a launch pad for Evans and his reminiscences of days long past, and of a hero who`s cape has long since been torn asunder.
Whomever the person Fischer might have been, has long since been lost to the paranoia that is so evident in his recent ramblings.
Sure the guy pulled off an amazing coup, but that was a lifetime ago, and the events of his life `since` are the real reason, IMHO, for the fascination with him - not the level of his play.
Had he decided to remain in competition, I`m certain that the Soviets (possibly Karpov, and surely Kasparov) would have regained the crown and Fischer would be just another title-holder who`s best days are behind him.
LET GO PEOPLE! This is not the guy to deify....
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Re:Whine about this... - 2005/11/04 14:25 In all likelihood has the US produced *any* world class players since Fischer, apart from Seirawan?
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Re:Whine about this... - 2005/11/04 14:27 Population of The Netherlands: 16 Million Population of The USA: 287 Million The Netherlands have 4 players in the top 100... Americans should stop whining about Fisher and start playing better chess.
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Re:Whine about this... - 2005/11/04 14:56 For certain orville & Wilber McWright were Irish.
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