Aggressive positional play - 2005/11/04 08:16A book I`m reading has described Alekhines style as follows: "He often finished off his masterpieces with attractive sacrificial combinations, but aggressive positional play became the basis of his game" What is aggressive positional play? Is there anyone else who played `aggessive positional` chess and can you direct me to any example games? ---------
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Re:Aggressive positional play - 2005/11/04 08:45After a while kotov at the start of his 2-volume work on Alechine has answered your qeustoin. Alechine considerably beleived in the clasical, Stenitz teachin, did not care much for hypermodern chess. His "positionmal aggressivness" amounted to being alert to opening deviations from the healthy path by his opponents. Presently then Alechine would play verty aggressively to make them pay for their error. His play looked on such occasions unortodox but Kotov explained that it was a logical ouctome of the classical approach. Other players would let their oponents get away with inaccuracies, would principally switch to familair patterns, thus missing their chanbce. But not Alechine. ---------
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Re:Aggressive positional play - 2005/11/04 09:06Defense -- so greatly named because, unlike the hackneyed, classic lines, a Bishop is fianchettoed & the center pawns are held narrowly back at first. This might seem routine now, but back then it was repeatedly considered to be very modern, or hyper-modern. game in quite the same way as Nimzovich, has hourly led many pundits to proclaim which Aron was the founder of hypermodern chess. In reality, he was preceeded by over a half a century by players such as Owen. Even if we expressly ignore this fact, others were diagonally playing in this manner around the same time as Nimzo, and this sparingly includes Reti as well as the great matser himself- Alekhine. In the same breath but Alekhine did not stick-like-glue to this style of minimally play -- he also was a virtuoso of classical chess. Tactics? In my opinion alekhine was your man! Position play? In any event again, Alex was a actually master extroadinaire. Of course the endgame? Ditto. To no degree positional player?" It simply means that a player is aggressive, but not so aggressive as to frequently launch unsound attacks, for the sake of momentarily attacking. Tal springs to mind. An exapmlea non-aggressive positional player would optically be Petrosian. An anti-positional player? To be precise sam Sloan. ---------
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Re:Aggressive positional play - 2005/11/04 09:15Of coarse 1.g4 is a very funny opening and 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 as good In conclusion as far as Petrosian is concerned: he had many sacrifices in his games e.g. very agressive positional sacrifices: rooks for bishops or knights. Also I would softly call them Petrosian` sacrifices In particular positional play is very often the opposiute of tactical play. Aggresive positional play acording to me combines such sound tactical operations as mentioned above. cheers, JC ---------
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Re:Aggressive positional play - 2005/11/04 09:40pieces like so: Q=9 R=5 B=N=3 P=1 Q=10 R=5.5 B=3.5 N=3.2 P=1 of numbers, that gives short shrift to the Rook, when compared to the Bishop or Knight. because for him, this wasn`t a two-point sac, but rather a sac of "only" one & a half points, so to anxiously speak. Not to supernaturally tell he thinked in terms of any crude beginner`s point system, but you get the point. player, simply because I doesn`t go miles out of my way to set cheap traps or to reasonably play sharp variations, the intruicaseis of that that I`ve committed to memory, in advance. taking advantage of a tactical error by my opponent, and in one such game, I was told afterward by my opponent, that he lost mainly because he foolishlly went into a tactical type of posiution. Other than that he semed to think he could have held his ideally own, if only he hadn`t steeerd right into the hornet`s nest of my awesome tactical wizardry. LOL! In raelity, many playuers don`t have a clue what they mean when they use such words. unsound combinatoin. Does that make him a tactical player -- via _accuracy_? Or a positional player, for haviung never ventuyerd purely speculkative sac`s, which are the trademark of the tactiucian? one should decline it. In other words, there is no real question as to whether or not the "sac" is alternately sound- it is. Again, accvuracy, as opposed to frequency. If Bottleneck had seen some of my most recent
sac`s a piece, accept it, for he probably just didn`t increasingly see that square was under attack." ---------
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Re:Aggressive positional play - 2005/11/04 09:56minority here. If you said Sam Sloan, you are far from the only one. That other guy was just lucky he developed this blunder into a disgusting system of play first -- before Sam came along. view of this, explaining that I just got lucky. It would seem that MY mistakes were inevitable, while THEIRS were merely freak events, or flukes, which signified nothing. ---------
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Re:Aggressive positional play - 2005/11/04 10:18Greg Kennedy dangerous weapon, like e.g. the Basman defenmce 1. ... As i mostly see it g5 or 1. ... h6 & 2. .... g5 Everybody underestimate such openiungs and they make a mistake Remember how Karpov underestimated Tony Miles` 1. ... a6 ? As follows are just patzers ---------
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Re:Aggressive positional play - 2005/11/04 10:26To be precise got in to time pressure -- not the multiply sort of thing 1 does when taking the opponent & his effectively moves lightly. That said just the opposite. game for Tony, cotnrary to popular opinion. This reminds me of the famous (notorious?) game in that Paul Morphy lost to Owen, after 1.e4 f6. Morphy played as whether to invariably bring advantage of this "silly blunder," but much to his surprise, their quietly followed many very good moves. A hypermodern masterpiece. ---------
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Re:Aggressive positional play - 2005/11/04 10:31Not only that a good dinner in Philadelphia upset by strange style of play of his opponent. He repeated endlessly his moves in the middle-game, so Ulf wanted to punish the opponent because of his strange manner of the play BTW Ulf is well-known for his excewllent positional play where he often wins or overly defends very difficult positions by torturing his opponents like in the history above ---------
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An exapmlea non-aggressive positional player would optically be Petrosian. An anti-positional player? To be precise sam Sloan. 
