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Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2007/12/30 10:58 I don't know if you have discussed already about using chess timers for our games as an option for those who love to use it or maybe a version of version of playing as blitz or any rapid game. I for one want to play some of that timed game.



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Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2007/12/30 12:26 That suggestion is good. However, if you like to play live, try going at www.freechess.org if you prefer; standard, blitz and lightning chess are there, not to mention other chess variants...



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Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2007/12/31 10:58 I will soon take it up with softwareman, Landix Will be back with an answer then.



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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2007/12/31 21:36 Timed games would not work for me cause I do house chores run errands pay bills and anything else that might come up plus have to travel 100 miles sometimes to Hospitol for me and my wife's checkups.
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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/01 16:24 I think the use of timers are fine for an option only--I like the way our games are now.



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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/02 12:03 OK, I will take all in consideration. I will get back to it later



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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/20 00:11 The use of clocks or timers for games would definitely INCREASE traffic in this site. While some prefer playing for days on end (correspondence chess) where the possibility of using computers to analyze is rather high, others (like myself) prefer timed games. And the increase in player traffic will be dependent on the type of playing interface to be used (some sites use java, some sites have their proprietary interfaces you download), the quality of the opposition and the goodwill of the admins.



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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/20 05:22 Most Interesting.

I still don't believe this site needs clocks.

As my forum posts in the other forums can attest.

Let me address the post by chicharon.

I play at sites that use or don't use clocks
Player choice you know "blitz" or
"No Clocks" Like that.

I love this site because it is
as you called it correspondence chess.

I call it Email chess same difference.

Why would anyone commit to a game played over
>MONTHS< and then use software?

Which while you didn't come right out and say it

IS CHEATING.

WHAT IS UP WITH THAT.?

I've read some of your other posts.
Yes that goes on everywhere.

You quoted a line from a movie earlier this evening.
In one of your posts. Eli Wallace "Shoot don't Talk"
The Good,The Bad, and The ugly.
Right ?


The folks here that I've talk to all seem to
just want to catch a game of chess.

Played over time >>>Sure.

That's the beauty of it.

Your new around here chicharon Right?

Now let me quote a line from a movie.

In Lady Hawk
Matthew Broderick says

" It's not polite to assume
someone is a lier , when you've
only just meet them."

Shotgun



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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/20 10:32 It will take some more time, but I MOST CERTAINLY will take all this in consideration and talk about it with softwareman to see if all can be implemented.

One question: shall I open a poll to see how many of you are interested in having this feature here and how many not, or is that not necessary?



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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/20 12:27 Shotgun,

In correspondence chess, the use of computers is ALLOWED. Perhaps you didn't know that. And if you read my post CAREFULLY, I said "...where the possibility of using computers to analyze is rather high," so your imputation that I meant cheating is rather out-of-place.
Yes, that's true, I'm new here. But being an old member doesn't guarantee wisdom, if you get my drift. The subject is timers ... you don't seem to want it and I respect that. But please don't interpret my post at the level of your intelligence.
Your Matthew Broderick quote is out of place. I NEVER called anyone in this forum a liar. I might as well be the one telling you that quote myself.
E-mail is correspondence ... letters are correspondence. I hope that's clear, too.
Have a nice day!



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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/20 13:06 Having chess clocks adds and extra element on skill and pressure into the game.
Agreed, not everyone has the time to respond to a chess game within the same day (i being an example), but chess clocks would certainly increase level of play.

Perhaps the middle ground is selcting a game option "timed" or "freeplay", just so it fits the schedule of both players.

As Dame says, it will go into consideration, but that would be my point to make, take into account that everyone works on a different time schedule, also , we live in different parts of the world, time zones may be a factor.
I myself live in the United Kingdom, and if i play Dame for example (Israel) on a blitz match, it could be difficult to respond with the best move due to time pressure.

Maybe this will help the views here.



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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/20 16:18 I'll tell yea plain and simple...I don't like timed chess of any kind period!
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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/20 16:30 All they want to do is stroke their own ego by winning a lot of fast games with timers...to heck with that garbage.Who cares about playing memorized moves.
You people that like clocks...why don't you play another type of game.
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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/20 16:47 I totally agree with Ironwagon..

as a newbie here..
who tries to feel and understand the spirit of this website and this community..
I want only to tell that if you implement clocks and the time control here this place will never be the same.

and will be like many others chess servers,
where I log-in, play fifty 1-minute games in two hours
and go away..

thus I totally agree with Ironwagon.. but I have the feeling that I have already told it somewhere..



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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/20 16:57 If you like that timed chess..then go to the other sites and play it...as for me it sucks big time playing timed chess.
Theres a group here in my town that all they play is 5 minute games and if you play them you have to put up with their smart mouth while your trying to think of your next move cause it's obvious they've memorized the
moves. I never went back to that place except once about 8 months later and it was the same 6 folks playing each other.
Not one new player there.
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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/21 05:27 My My

I stand by what I said.

chicharon,

You make one valid point.
AND I STRESS ONE

This forum is about timers.

As for the rest of it.

Correspondence ; that is a matter of semantics
Thought that was clear from the term
"same difference"

The software thing course it's ALLOWED.

My point was.

Why would anyone playing a game that lasts months
have need of ,or feel so compelled to win.
At a site such as this ?
That they would resort to that ?



Maybe we need a new forum.

Look for it.


Your wisdom's not that sound.

Flawed really in so many ways.


Reckon So,
Shotgun



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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/21 10:52 OK, Shotgun, please may I remind you that personal attacks are not the spirit i would like to have on this forum. I would like to keep it nice and friendly, please. So, let's move forward and leave everyone in his right of own opinions OK?

Chris I think your suggestion is the best. I have no idea if all of this is at all possible -for sure not right now with this software- but perhaps later with updates of it or changes made in it.

Perhaps the middle ground is selcting a game option "timed" or "freeplay", just so it fits the schedule of both players.



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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/21 11:31 My opinion: There are plenty of other sites where one can play against the clock. Chesscircle.net provides a very relaxed atmosphere for playing a game we love and where we can learn from others to play better. I think we should leave it as it is. Sorry, just my opinion, take it or leave it. {Feel-good-000200BB}
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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/21 13:20 I think that those who do not want timers are fearful that they can no longer play weeks-long or months-long correspondence games, and that every game will be timed. I don't think this is the intent of the original advocate of the timer proposal.
The point is, not all members of this site play correspondence games. I am completely certain a good number also want to play timed games. Most sites offer both timed and correspondence games where you could play a single game for a whole year if that is what the players want. If one desires learning or understanding the game, one reads chess books, not play correspondence chess.
Timed games are normally for people who see chess as a fun game and for people who, because of occupational or vocational reasons, have only intermittent periods to spare for playing the game they love. Are these players then to be deprived of the fun and the enjoyment and be told to go play elsewhere?
A site that wishes to attract more players or traffic should or must cater to both timed and correspondence games.
Even correspondence players can use a timer, set it to 500 hours or more each player (if they want) - and that surely is a long time for playing, shooting the breeze, typing sweet nothings and whatever it is that gets a correspondence player in Cloud 9 at the same time. Cheers!



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Re:Using Timers for all our games as an option. - 2008/01/21 23:59 You mean to say that one can't learn from a lost correspondence game?
Chess books are usually written by better players than yourself and yes I do read them.
About the timing of correspondence games: I prefer to finish a game in days rather than weeks. I do not like playing people who leave it for days to come back with a move, unless there is a good reason, which should be communicated somehow to the other party.
I have no objections to standard timed games. I do not think blitz games are my cup of tea. I leave them to younger players who like the pressure of them.

chicharon wrote:
If one desires learning or understanding the game, one reads chess books, not play correspondence chess.

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