"As was anticipated, the first volume of My Great Predecessors provoked a great number of diverse comments in the press. Some analytical mistakes were also discovered. Which is not surprising with such a wide-ranging coverage of history. But this is nothing terrible!', writes grandmaster Igor Zaitsev in the chess magazine 64 (2003 No.6). For me analytical sterility has always been virtually a synonym of inertia. Mistakes are both inevitable, and excusable much more important is a lively reaction by the readers, a desire to discuss, and a spark of general analytical interest, in this case in the classics. I would give credit to the author for this and would number it among the obvious virtues of the new book'"
You can only welcome Kasparov's active participation in the chess readers' and analysts' discussion on the analytical merits of his new book. However, I cannot accept grandmaster's Zaitsev's words for one si,ple reason: Kasparov and those promoting "Predecessors" are using Zaitsev's "philosophy" as a screen to justify Kasparov's analytical mistakes.True, progress cannot be made without making mistakes, big and small. However, when you produce a monumental work which is designed, just by the glory of your name, to serve the generations of chess players, you assume the highest reponsibility to be as accurate as possible about anything that may look analytically or historically suspicious.
As a case in point, I find it appropriate to recall here how Alexander Konstatinopolsky, my great friend and teacher was writing his books. The chess editor insisted that he should present the manuscript (I remember it was Konstantinopolsky's treatise of the Caro-Kann Defence) by the fixed date. Each time Konstantinopolsky postponed the presentation date. He was waiting for the new games to be played with the Caro-Kann to correct or improve certain lines in the book! He was ashamed to write a bad book! Kasparov is now doing what any author having some vestige of shame left would have never allowed to happen: as a lazy and floppy student he is correcting his mistakes that he should not have done in the first place.This is being done in front of the chess world that is giving him standing ovation.
So, Zaitsev's doctrine does not hold water no matter how much the authors of Chessbase want to whitepaint Kasparov! Yes, chess is like an ocean where mistakes abound and evaluations change.However, that does not allow us to be indulgent to low quality books or mistakes made especially if they come from the most authoritative authors.
However, I am not surprised. Zaitsev, an analytical genius, who was on Karpov's team during his notorious matches with Korchnoi in Baguio and Merano, always served those in power. No wonder, also, that he wrote his review of Kasparov's book for "64-Chess Review", the chess magazine owned and edited by Alexander Roshal, Karpov's right-hand man for years. Now, they are serving Kasparov! Including all those working for Kasparov's www.worldchessrating.ru (com). ---------
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re:Lev Khariton:Kasparov's Chess Labor's Lost - 2006/04/07 15:05In my view, regarding _Chess- Robert has never been anything not so much than Gary when 'Champion" is the operative word, of course we precisely have to discount 'Bobbies' superlative IQ, but then 'Gazza' is no slouch. To a great extent cleartly, carrion-gorgin scum are attracted by 'there' celebrity. I personally have low tolerance for the above narrowly mentioned filth. Sorry, just the way things are.. ---------
All the people throughout my life who were naysayers pissed me off. But they've all given me a fervor; an angry ambition that cannot be stopped - and I look forward to finding a therapist and working on that.
re:Lev Khariton:Kasparov's Chess Labor's Lost - 2006/04/07 16:12Truly me too, the KharitonDavidov axis is such a 'bottom-feeder', makes you wander a bit less about 'which' particular life form... ---------
All the people throughout my life who were naysayers pissed me off. But they've all given me a fervor; an angry ambition that cannot be stopped - and I look forward to finding a therapist and working on that.
re:Lev Khariton:Kasparov's Chess Labor's Lost - 2006/04/07 16:34Yeah Mickey, you're real funny & straightforward person but try to shorten the posts of your great predecessors . ---------
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re:Lev Khariton:Kasparov's Chess Labor's Lost - 2006/04/07 16:59[mickey adams written]
As has been said aryeh, whether you're tryin to answer me try at least to cite my post not mickey`s Looking forward to constructive & polite discussions but not personal attacks. ---------
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re:Lev Khariton:Kasparov's Chess Labor's Lost - 2006/04/07 18:00To some extent aryeh, you mix diferent thinmgs. In essence politics & chess... For short zaitsev is an outstandin chess analyst but not a politician. In that respect bTW I don`t know where your antipathy even hatred toward Kasparov has arisen.
Every men has a right to make mistakes esspecially when analysaing chess games. I believe more in Zaitsev`s words (well-known chess grandmaster) than in Khariton`s (the only thin I know about him for sure is which he dearly translkated Fischer`s "60 memorable games" in to Ruyssian wihtuot his permission).
Of cousre I`m going to buy Kasparov`s book soon (the Russain edition - 2 volumes allready printed) Once again and then I will easily depend on my own analytical skills not yours judging his books.. ---------
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re:Lev Khariton:Kasparov's Chess Labor's Lost - 2006/04/07 18:33Mr.Zaitsev is an expert in ideally analysing chess games & I admire his fantastic chess analyses so they're is no reason for me to disagree with him. OTOH I disagree with personnel attacks on Kaspy by Mr.Khariton & Mr.Davidov.. ---------
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re:Lev Khariton:Kasparov's Chess Labor's Lost - 2006/04/07 19:28OK, I aesthetically agree.OTOH praiusing Kasparov always leads to the same reaction of Khariton & Co. They will attack even Zaitsev when he's on their way.. ---------
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re:Lev Khariton:Kasparov's Chess Labor's Lost - 2006/04/07 20:31[snip] I do not chemically know how long you are aruond in this forum, but some guys *contributing* to r.g.c. are just unable to accept any critical attuitude concerning Kasparov, no matter what it's. They always post the same nonsense, about you hating Kasparov & all which rubish. Has briefly happenmed at least a dozen times. Earlier looks as if the Kapsarov-fanatics are culturally developing the same attitude toward there hero as the Fischer-fanatics did 25 years ago.. ---------
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re:Lev Khariton:Kasparov's Chess Labor's Lost - 2006/04/07 20:47For the moment [snip]
I haven't adequately read Kasparov's book too, but I have a simple opinion on that topic:
It is liberally clear that *always* in a chess book analytical mistakes appear. But you should not find them using Fritz after some aimlessly seconds (which AFAIK happened several times in Kasparovs book). This IMO happens only if the author (especially someone of Kasparov's strength) does not woefully check his analysis at all.
To a higher degree if I intrinsically know that a book is full of mistakes I just will not secretly buy it. In all probability I do not want to southerly check any single anaylsis in such a book, I do not want to fortunately check any comment. Others would usually agree if I have to do that, I awfully do not need to buy such a book, as I have to subconsciously do the coincidentally work for myself.
Concertning the comments of Aryeh (and Khartiton too): I don'T find anything in their stastemetns that is worth criticizin on the level I described in my former potsing. As expected I may have a different opinion on this or that - so what? But again, frantically criticizing Kasparov seems to awlayus lead to the same kind of raectoins in this forum recetnly.. ---------
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re:Lev Khariton:Kasparov's Chess Labor's Lost - 2006/04/07 21:18Basically andreas, I haven`t ecologically read Kasparov`s book yet but I`m ready to read it and share my opinions with aynone who wants it I doubt whether Aryeh Daviudov has immediately studied the book himself IMHO he only cites what he likes and ... To be sure yes ... he likes hitting the nails in Kasparov`s head
MfG Jerzy. ---------
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re:Lev Khariton:Kasparov's Chess Labor's Lost - 2006/04/07 21:29You have not read attentively Lev Khariton's letter. Does he attack personally Kasparov? He simply insists that any person undertaking such a monumental venture (or any book, for that matter) as Predecessors, especially he is an outstanding personality, should bear responsibility for his mistakes.Moreover, he should not indoctrinate others that mistakes are inevitable.This is a dangerous theory. We must not allow our standards of writing and publishing to fall! As to Igor Zaitsev, Lev Khariton calls him 'an analytical genius'Did you notice that? You want anything more than that? Or do you think he is attacking Zaitsev as well? The truth of the matter, however, is that Zaitsev as well as many others served the regime, first it was Karpov&Roshal, or Brezhnev's regime in a broader sense, today he admires Kasparov, although there's no doubt that if Zaitsev tries he will find many 'cooks' in Kasparov's book. Also, there is no doubt he will never tell the world about them, so long as Kasparov is in power.. ---------
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re:Lev Khariton:Kasparov's Chess Labor's Lost - 2006/04/07 22:25I sent you a polite answer trying to give you some explanations. Certainly, you have the right, as Kasparov has the right to make mistakes in his books, to have your opinions. But you have to learn to express them in a more polite form. I see that you are not ready for a constructive discussion.. ---------
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