Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/01/20 15:39.. found today at http://www.coruschess.com/ - the famous chess tournament website.. what do you think?
January 20 2008, Corus Chess Press
At the start of round 8 of the Corus Chess Tournament, Ivan Cheparinov, top seed in Grandmaster Group B, lost his game against Nigel Short for refusing to shake the Brit’s hand. According to the FIDE Handbook:
“Any player who does not shake hands with the opponent (or greets the opponent in a normal social manner in accordance with the conventional rules of their society) before the game starts in a FIDE tournament or during a FIDE match (and does not do it after being asked to do so by the arbiter) or deliberately insults his/her opponent or the officials of the event, will immediately and finally lose the relevant game.”
Chief Arbiter Thomas van Beekum was a witness when Cheparinov refused Short’s offer to shake hands twice and the Bulgarian’s game was declared a loss as a result.
Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/01/27 22:28The game Short-Cheparinov was finally played after GM Cheparinov had apologized. GM Short played one of his best games and won. More on it at The Week in Chess:
Re:Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/01/30 01:37csmullen wrote: Pointless, i cannot understand such actions. It angers me to read it. Which part angers you, the player not shaking hands or the player being forfeited (or both)?
No one has a "right" to play in a FIDE event, so if a player understand the rules and doesn't follow them, then what's the problem with forfeiting the player?
Re:Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/01/30 05:39Check This Out
I had no idea that was a rule. I've played chess all over. Basements , Bars , Parks , Roof Tops. And almost without fail , when starting a match , with someone you had never played before. There is a greeting of some sort. The exchange of words before a rematch can at times be vulgar , and insulting. But since that in it self can be socially acceptable depending where your playing.
Cheparinov deserved the lose ruling. Short's actual win [after the apology] just goes to show
While everyone has manners. Not everyone uses them.
Re:Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/02/02 13:35shaking hands only? I think with the globalization and thus multicultural traditions maybe greeting manners could be adjusted?
Re:Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/02/02 14:25Why?
I one doesn't want to shake hands in general then this individual case shouldn't be taken out of context no? If this is a one-time refusal, obviously the punishment was justified.
Re:Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/02/02 15:13OK,I've thought of some possible answers as to why he wouldn't shake hands. He had a cold and didn't want to spread germs. He knew that the other had been chewing super double bubble,bubble gum and didn't want to get super double bubble,bubble sticky icky mess on his hand and if he by accident touched a piece he wouldn't be able to shake it loose! It was a cold room so he didn't want to remove his hand from his pocket,for after all,he was warmed up and ready to play. Or maybe he was thinking of poems such as this one. I'd rather play tennis than go to the dentist. I'd rather play soccer than go to the doctor. I'd rather play Hurk than go to work. Hurk? Hurk? What's Hurk? I don't know,but it must be better than work. Can you think of some? ---------
Ironwagon
Re:Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/02/02 23:56Mere violation of hand shake to determine the outcome of the very sport. It's a nonsense rule. Maybe sanctions, lesser penalty/penalties will do because a hand shake is not equivalent to the efforts, time, and some sacrifices and pains to bring about a win. Is chess also a contest of good manners and right conduct?
Re:Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/02/03 00:03I suggest to impose sanctions such as the following. A player who refuses to shake hands before the game may be disallowed to play that game and the player who refuses to shake hands after the game may be disallowed to play his next game.
Re:Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/02/03 00:40i can't agree that "it is a nonsense rule".
and what do you mean by "disallowed to play that game"? what should be the result of the game? wasn't Cheparinov "disallowed to play that game"? he was! which means he lost. do you suggest 0.5 - 0.5 in such cases?
and wasn't it (the refusal of shaking hand) the act of hostility which purpose was to surprise, shock and disturb the opponent and gain some advantage during the game?
Re:Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/02/06 00:45landix wrote: Is chess also a contest of good manners and right conduct?
If a player is accepting money to play in a tournament, then s/he has to follow whatever rules the sponsor might make, which may include actually having to be polite to your opponent.
Re:Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/02/06 10:41I really think it is a good thing to be always polite and courteous. That's a sign of good education. Somebody said, you don't lose anything to be polite. On the other hand, teaching a person to be polite by forcing him to be would result in "plastic", or sort of just hypocrisy. Let a real polite person come out because that is really him than a seemingly polite person when he really is not.
Re:Ivan Cheparinov forfeited over handshake - 2008/02/06 10:52landix wrote: I really think it is a good thing to be always polite and courteous. That's a sign of good education. Somebody said, you don't lose anything to be polite. On the other hand, teaching a person to be polite by forcing him to be would result in "plastic", or sort of just hypocrisy. Let a real polite person come out because that is really him than a seemingly polite person when he really is not.
yes landix and it is polite to answer your PM's and not ignore them...even when you are handing me my own arse on the chessboard.
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