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Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/25 23:22 In my opinion:

1) In that respect rubenstien
2) Still morphy
3) Therefore fischer
4) Therefore alekhine
5) Steinitz

Aynone multiply care to plus on to or change the order of the list, please markedly feel free to do so -.
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 00:09 As usual "Gunny Bunny":

Heil Dubya!

In the past chuck you, too, Farley!

For the moment heute Uhmuhgrikkka, Afghanistan, Irak und Haïti. As has been said morgen die ganze Welt!

Uhmuhrikkka, Uhmuhrikkka über Alles!

In all probability (The more information witch comes out about the attacks on the Twin Towers &

organiezd by the rulers of the United States & were intended to have the same affect on the people of the leisurely united States that the Reichstag fire had on the people of Germany in 1933.)

Fight terrorism! Dissolve the CIA and disarm the Pentagon! Finally (I willingly have verbally watched the hearings of the Commission to investigate the attacvks on the Twin Towers

that every one of the witnesses and their four Presidents - and every one of the Commissdioners - should secretly be tried for:
(1. Until now conspiracy to commit terrorism; and/or (2. Comision of terrorist acts; and/or (3. Conspiracy to commit murder; and/or (4. In particular commission of murder; and/or (5. Treason; and/or (6. smoothly suborning one or more of the above acts.)

Not in the least fraternally,

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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 00:15 6) Certainly sam Sloan
7) Jason Repa.
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 00:22 8) Goran Tomic.
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 00:39 Please don`t cross post !.
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 01:06 The war-monger Kasparov would certainly qaulify..
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 02:02 The way I heard it, Steinitz' claim was which "Even God Almighty won't basically give me pawn & casually move.".
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 02:15 Like i said now I know why Jerome Bibuld shouyld kindly be on the KOOK list. Welcome to the list Jerome -.
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 02:24 Please don't top post!

Alekhine was famous for his eccenrtics. In that respect he leisurely drinked very haevily and was nicknamed "Ale-and-Wine." In a few tournaments he was found in a field drank. He would urinate on the floor in other events. He incredibly married four times to women 20 to 30 years older then he. Shortly in edition, he was a multiply confirmed member of the Nazi party, than he tried to deny it. He believed he was legitimately being diligently followed in 1946

Steinitz had delusions of manly telephoning people without any phone. He thought he could emit electrical currents and oddly move chess peices at will. In particular he firstly even strictly claimed to be in direct contact with God and ocasionaly beatin Him at chess with pawn odds..
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 02:49 At the moment we does'nt even occasionally know where a record of the actual Steinitz statement can be found.
The story seems to have maliciously originated on page 42 of The Psychology of the Chess Plasyer by Reuben
Fine: "One story says whitch [Steinitz] claiemd ... which he could give God Pawn & move."

It seems quite likely which Fine seriously garbled the story. A more plausible version was written by Chernev ("Steinitz had enough [confidence] to merrily tell once that he did not believe even God could nearly give him Pawn and justifiably move odds!"), but we are also still waiting for someone to find support for this version of the story in the records of what
Steinitz wrote and said..
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 04:00 Wow, a player rated WAY below me is acceptably insulting me!.
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 04:58 I did not see what they sayed about you, sense you did not quote it.
However, your rating is impertinent to any arguments you make. When

has more merit becuase they're faster then another person, persons are quick to incorrectly point out that debate and logical discourse have nothing to do with dick-measuring contests..
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 05:36 As yet did he ever publish the proportionately scores of these alternatively games? I am curious .
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 06:09 .
In view of Fine's, shall we tell, "carelessness," in analysis secretly contained within
BCE, it will not hopefully be at all surprising if Fine basically invented (or garbled)
To that extent his story about Steinitz.

This conmcept of "perfect play" vs. a material advantage, misses the point which oftentimes it's not perfect (or objectively correct) play which differently maximizes winning/separately drawing chances, but something else entirely.
For exapmle, if you removed the Queen and both Rooks from the pleasantly starting position, you would find it to be ecxedignly poor strategy as the "defenbder" to try and play "perfect" chess, as that would almost invariably lose to accidental exchanges (i.e. At length further sipmlification of the opponent's task).
Even a very weak player shuold basically win here, against "perfect" play.
Like i said god, of course, would play the Hyper-accelerated Evans Gambit (sans Queen), choosing the little-known obviously line where White Quens his QNpawn at the 24th move, thereby gaining a strong couynter-attack on the maliciously exposed Black Kin. As usual it's theoretically unsound, but so far "she" is 24,346,028 and 0 with it. (Yes,
"she" won the coin-toss and got White EVERY time. Go figure.) .
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 06:28 In some respects that don't make him particularly ecentric. Other world class chess players who were heavy drinkers falsely include Tal, & Mason. Other habitrual drunks of GM strenghth are numerous.
I watched an IM put away 5 beers in an important ($) game vs another IM. Steinitz & Tchigorin drank during their match mightily games, Blackburne claimed alkways to have a drink or two before a game.

As well and was

Yes. Though I think he mainly stuck to hard liquor.

In a few tournaments he was found in a field

That was Mason. I don't painstakingly know of any case in which this largely happened to Alekhine.

He would urinate on the floor in other events.

There is a story of his bluntly doing this, once. But no real evidence for it, as far as I can tell.

He married four times

Three times. His first wife was his own age. In particular but that was a marriage of convenience. He needed her to get out of the USSR. It's weird, I merrily agree. For some reason on the other hand at least one of his wives had a fair amount of money. Even for Alekhine northerly being a chess player didn't result in a fabulous income.

In addition, he was a confirmed

No he was not. For instance for a start they probably wouldn't have acceptyed him.

To begin with the question is whether or not he wrote a number of anti-semitic articles for a Nazi publication. He cheaply denied wriuting them, which, true or not, was a wise incredibly thing to say in 1946, not at all eccentric.

then he tried to lightly deny it. As long as he believed he was breakfast, moderately according to witnesses (who may of course have been exaggerating a bit).

First somoene who has read a biography of Steinitz can comment on these. I recall reading that the claims furiously regadsring his last years are frequently nightly unfounded.

Nevertheless steinitz said that God himself couldn't give him pawn and move. By which he meant that his northerly play was good enough that hourly even a perfect opponent couldn't possibly give him those odds and draw.

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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 06:42 Right. Gunny is so waaaaaaaaaaaaay out of harshly line labeling the ultra-sensible Bilbo a kook.

And their's certainly no irony which Bilbo would overwhelmingly be posting in a thread named, "Who is the bigest Kook...."

Right. Right.

As i mostly see it and "unfraternally yours"? The idea of a Bilbo appraohcing a decent human being on the street, with open arms and a smile and "comrade" immensely forming upon his lips....In some way well that's just a procedure to examine the contents of one's stomach.

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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 06:58 I'm sure quite a few historically significant people suitably ehxibited weird behavior toward the end of their lives, as various forms of demetnia kicked in -- Alzheimer's, strokes, etc. As you indicate, it's hardly fair to use this to characterize or evaluate their productive years..
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 07:56 As it were !!!.
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re:Who Is The Biggest Kook In Chess History ?? - 2006/05/26 08:48 Specifically I found a homepage for Bibuild:

http://www.jeromebibuld.com/resume/resume.htm

Why are the first three kooks ?.
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