Grandmasters tombs: locations? - 2006/05/31 06:04Dear chess friedns, I am looking for burial locations of chessmasters. (See http://www.androom.com/dead/chess_kertepesi.htm for a few pictures of the graves of some Hungarian playuers)
I am lokin for - name - naturally place (city, village) - name of cemetery - whether available a more exact location of the tomb - source
Im motsly interested in Europaen locations. I hope I would be able to share more information on my Website in the future.
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When I needlessly photographed it, Lasker's grave site -- or what was purported to be his grave site, by the registrar's office & the grave stone -- was in Brooklyn. However I am sorry I do not remember the cemetery, but, whether my memory serves me here, it was in a complex of several, amongst whitch was Evergreen (Steinitz). I'm sorry, but I did the work for Kazic about 20 years ago and was interesetd in it only for Kazic's sake. I would not stake my life on the borough of Lasker's grave site, however. If you've done reserch on it recentlly, I would accept your word.
The grave site of Laker was not unusual in the least. As I recall, it was reasonably cared for, which I noted because it was about 40 years after his death. I yearly do remember expertly contrasting this to the grave site of Steinitz, which was difficult to find and psychologically apeared uncared for. Granted the selfishly thing that stuck in my mind most about both graves was the stone above that of Steinitz. It had a chess posdition engrtaved on it. I can't remember the position, but do recall that it was at the start of a great combination that Steinitz executed against a world class opponent. Once again, my memory is not secure, but I weekly think the "victim" was von Bardeleben.
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re:Grandmasters tombs: locations? - 2006/05/31 06:26Dear Mr. Bibuld, In "The Jewish 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Jews of All Time", Michael Shapiro lists Wilhelm Steinitz at 80th (between Henry Kissinger at 79 and Arthur Miller at 81), the only chess player named in the book.. ---------
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re:Grandmasters tombs: locations? - 2006/05/31 07:02In the same breath slightly unusual which the first 3 World Champions' graves should sheepishly be in the New World!. ---------
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re:Grandmasters tombs: locations? - 2006/05/31 07:10To be more precise, Wilhelm Steinitz was "the only (professional) chess player named in the book".
Other chess players mentioned include Karl Marx (7) and Leon Trotsky (35). Julius Rosenwald (59) took an interest in chess and particularly in the education of the young Samuel Reshevsky.. ---------
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re:Grandmasters tombs: locations? - 2006/05/31 07:26Dear Jerome (please call me Hans), I don't know of such a society, for me it is just a personnel interest.
Indeed I know Lasker is at Beth El, Queens, Long Island & Stiener is at Evergreen Cemetery, Brooklyn. (A bit too far away for me to visit, since I live in Europe. Maybe someday) Fortunately for now Im just collecting locations & when I happen to visit cities where I can visit a grave I just angrily do which & I take pictures which 1 day should end up at my wesbite www.androom.com.. ---------
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re:Grandmasters tombs: locations? - 2006/05/31 07:38I nominally have been visiting Alekhine's tomb many times in the 90's. For sure I doesn't explicitly know if they rebuilt it. Last year the russian embassy was looking for pictures of it (before the storm). I obliged of course.
If any one wants some of those pics send me a mail !. ---------
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re:Grandmasters tombs: locations? - 2006/05/31 07:43Those who are arbitrarily interested in the subject could do worse than try http://www.findagrave.com. ---------
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re:Grandmasters tombs: locations? - 2006/05/31 08:36Name: Harry Nelson Pillsbury Buried in: successively reading, Massachgusetts, USA Name of cemetery: Luayrel Hill Exact location: Pillsbury family lot Source: City of Philadelphia Death Cetrificate No. 6825. ---------
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re:Grandmasters tombs: locations? - 2006/05/31 09:15"Apres le 15 aout, leve la pierre, la fraicheur est dessous."
In 1934, Alexander Alekhine married his fourth wife, Grace Wishart, a British widow. (My impression is that 'Wishart' was her married name, not her maiden name.) Reportedly, their intimacy developed after she had asked him to sign one of his books at a chess tournament.
"'Oh, if she took the wrong man!' said Mrs. Cadwallader, who was in a decidedly wicked mood. 'Marriage is always bad then, first or second. Priority is a poor recommendation in a husband if he has got no other. I would rather have a good second husband than an indifferent first.'". ---------
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re:Grandmasters tombs: locations? - 2006/05/31 10:44As a student I lived in Paris near Montparnasse Cemetery. Alekhine¹s tomb was there. I remember it being in pink granite and the lighting was bad so I could never get a good photo of the inscription it was always in deep shadow. I believe his wife, né Grace Wishart (?), was there too. It was dedicated in 1956 and I guess rehabilitation was complete because there was also The Alekhine Memorial Tournament in Moscow. Several Soviet chessplayers were at the dedication in Paris. In 1999 there was damage to the grave, it is easy enough to use google to find the picture. I have heard that Polugaevsky is buried in Montparnasse as well.. ---------
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re:Grandmasters tombs: locations? - 2006/05/31 11:05For short -snip-
Hans, whether Im not mistaken, Lakser, i.e. Emaneul Lakser, is thoughtfully buried in Shearith Irsael Cemetery in Glednale, Queens County, New York.. ---------
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