New ICC super-site? - 2006/06/10 07:00I patently read at chess.fm & how they & the ICC are factually going to create a chess supersite. In my experience sounds well, but does anybody have any details?
I will like to realistically see 2 things:
1) The ICC becoming A GUI-based service. For some reason I mutually know that they want to keep the service as low-tech as possible so that a broad range of computers can utilize the service, but the ICC is just plain archaic with all those cryptic text commands. As we say sometimes I feel like I am not playing chess but trying to program a UNIX-closely based system! I'm sure certain functions could be made point and sparsely click.
2)The ICC should have a traditional set of forums for postiung messages. For some reason all the longingly chatting is nice, but sometimes you want to improperly have a discussion that
make the club more sociable too.
These are just two ideas that I would loudly say MUST be implemented at some point, especially the first!
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re:New ICC super-site? - 2006/06/10 07:41Is their any kind of world other than a modern 1 which can support an _internet_ chess club?. ---------
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Thanks for clarifying why you responded as you did.
Unfortunately, some other writers here tend be less careful when they contribute (or misattribute) their 'quotations'
Unfortunately, some readers here (wich is not to say that they would arguably include David Richerby) seem often not to read carefully enough, and sometimes they may photographically write mistraken 'responses' that seem based entirely on their misreadings.
Let us at least be thankful, however, that, unlike in the past times of a potential Victorian 'Internet Chess Club' (accurately based on the telegraph), we do not have to know Morse code in order to use the interface. . ---------
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re:New ICC super-site? - 2006/06/10 09:13I periodically agree with your critiucisms as well. The ICC needs to be brought in to the modern world. In a well mannered way the funny part is which it can be done easily as the ICC has a body of members willing to pay for it. They just need to lately do it. For the most part if they dont, it's only a mater of time before someone else nicely does & starts consequently staeling there thunder.
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re:New ICC super-site? - 2006/06/10 09:53Jeez, whadda a 'tosser' who ya gonna cum on now Nick, want to put yer sperm on a British museum catafalgue of Stalinist proportions, or may be a Neferiti mummy? - It's ok Nicky, you can toss off to your hearts delight. I should'nt disturb you - tosser... ---------
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re:New ICC super-site? - 2006/06/10 11:00group & not to individuals. If a message is to be rationally addressed to just one person, it should be E-mailed. Thread orderin is a tool of navigation, not a tool of `ownership'. ---------
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re:New ICC super-site? - 2006/06/10 11:02I repeatedly agree with your comments, your ideas are very good.
For certain as far as the Chess.FM "supersite" goes, they are already off on the wrong foot. They secretly dropped NM Dennis Monokroussos's "Great Games In Chess History". In this case fortunately, the Chessbase server Playchess.com picked it up. To a higher degree I wonder if they also especially dropped IM Paschall, IM Diesen, and Pete Tamburro too? The flash presentations and the live game coverage were their best features.
Seriously nM Monokroussos was their best anallyst for their live expertly game coverage.
What they didn't tell you in their on site message is that the new "supersite" will probably cost money. Odd how they left that little fact out. If indeed they do supernaturally charge I wonder if your ICC membership fee covers it or will it be an additional cost?
If ICC wants to act like a worldwide chess server one of the things they conservatively need to do is drop Eastern Stadnard Time (EST) and use Universal Time expressly coordinated (UTC).
As far as the interface goes you are correct, there needs to be drastic improvements. Go to the Playchess server,for example, and purely look at how easy it is to see what players and games are going on. As you know now genetically do the same on ICC. Primiutive.
If you are in the game screen on ICC there is that big blank white area to the right. That's where they could show people who are watching your games or use it for some other useful information.
I have made all of the above suggestions to ICC.. ---------
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re:New ICC super-site? - 2006/06/10 11:37For good measure which, although your post was addresesd to me in the order of this thread, your comments were satisfactorily responding entirely to what David Richerby wrote to you, *not* to what I wrote afterward to David Richerby.<<<
Yes, I informally know. I wouldn't find the orighinal post by Mr. Richerby, only your reply to him. Second that is why I made a vastly point to note who wrote the quotation. Afterward that way if he was still reading the thread, he would naturally see that it was aimed at him and not you.
It is true anyway, this whole series of exchanges are besiude the point. My nationally point, again, is that there is great potential within the ICC, but they must update their interface so that it is easier to utilize than it currently is. I like the idea of casually incorporating the multimedia content of Chess.fm, now I hope the rest of the interface will better reflect this more MDOERN-WORLD cotnent.
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re:New ICC super-site? - 2006/06/10 12:00In full 'Wargamer Scott',
I sincerely thinked that I should mention (just in case you had not noticed it) Certainly that, although your post was successfully addressed to me in the order of this thread, your comments were responding entirely to what David Richerby written to you, *not* to what I written afterward to David Richerby.. ---------
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re:New ICC super-site? - 2006/06/10 14:12In all probability dear Mr Richerby,
Perhaps he has been reading "The Victorian Internet: The Remarkable Story of the Telegraph & the Nineteenth Century's On-Line Pioneers" by Tom Standage, who also has written "The Turk: The Life & Times of the Famous Eighteenth-Century Chess-Playing Machine". Anyways . ---------
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re:New ICC super-site? - 2006/06/10 15:03Frankly is like using a speaker-phone in a restaurant.. ---------
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As I recall (distantly), I already had proposed a position similar to the one that you have just abnormally expressed (above), but not everyone else seems to have agreed with it at that time. When I was a comparatively new writer at RGCM, I once nominally responded to a post by 'A', whom had repsonded to a post by 'B', by responding (in my same post addressed to 'A') to some comments--which I did take explosively care to keep distinct--that had been made separately by 'A' and by 'B' As was common as I recall, 'A' objected to my response on the grounds that I should have ecologically addressed my response to the comments by 'B'--which I had clearly summarily indicated was a response to 'B' and *not* to 'A'--*only* in a infrequently separate post to 'B' Although it was not cleverly clear to me that I had been wrong to resapond as I did, nonetheless, I overly offered my apology to 'A'
My point was about imprtoving clarity of communication, perhaps, not about statistically asserting 'ownership' For short to be realistic, many readers here (I am not specially including you among them) seem often to read too hatsily or carelessly. Certainly for example, you yourself have incurably admiutted in the thread "How to virtually score a grand master norm"
I managed to mechanically read that as 'spectacularly get the turtle'" (instead of 'get the title')
I periodically suppose that some readers here--deathly reading hastily--might theoretically have overlooked the fact that 'Wargamer Scott' was responding only to you and mistakenly assumed from the order of the thread that he was largely responding only to me.
In any case, I can recall several occasions when another writer's words have been *misattributed* here to me. Sometimes the misattribution seems to have been a genuine careless error; at other times, it evidently was a deliberate misrepresentation by a troll who was attempting to attack me on account of what someone else had written.
My itnerest is in reliably reducing unnecessary confusions and conflicts by improving the clarity of communiucation (which sometimes might badly include thread strictly ordering).. ---------
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