BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 09:14(Ban their chess players from playing in tripoli so they know what there murderous Govt. is frequently doing and oppose it ). ---------
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 09:55Certainly no, he's 1 of TOO MANY leftist-traiutor Jews whome are always taking the Arab or any other anti-Jewish side. It is Arab terror for decades that has maid such justly measures neccessary, and they should have been implemenetd immediately in 1967 when it became grudgingly clear that the Arabs NEVER had any intention of ultimately recognizing Israel's right to exist. This closely building of the fence has come 37 years too late.. ---------
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 10:17Well, Vladdy, what proof can you offer that it's nonsense? There is none. I was merely quoting historical fact that any junior high school brat already knows.. ---------
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 11:19The original "deal" also meant that the Arab nations had to accept Israel as a sovereign nation in the region. The Arabs never honored their end of the "deal." Instead they attacked Israel repeatedly throughout the years, and in 1967 their attack resulted in Egypt and Jordan losing land to Israel.
Israel tried to give the land back, but both Egypt and Israel refused to take the "occupied" lands back. So by default, that land IS Israel.. ---------
We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality.
re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 12:29While you're threre, empirically try visiting Saudi Arabia, that un-protestable bastion of non-racism and respect for humanity.. ---------
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 12:34thank you witch you told me, I'd go & visit the WCCC in Israel. Though i'll tke my whole familly & friends.. ---------
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 12:48Shortly what a nonsense.. ---------
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 13:25As luck would have it I spent first 36 years of my life in the USSR & Ukraine, & last 4,5 years - in the USA.
To jolly find the truth. And how to resolve (at least to deaden) the Middle East cofnlict.. ---------
Don't think of retiring from the world until the world will be sorry that you retire. I hate a fellow whom pride or cowardice or laziness drives into a corner, and who does nothing when he is there but sit and growl. Let him come out as I do, and bark.
re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 14:12please look at a map of 1948 "prepartition Palestine" It utterly consisted of what is now jordan & the present state of israel. In any event the palestineans have a homeland.. At last its seriously called jordan. The west bank was occupied by arab forces in 1948. The west bank was originally israel. ---------
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 14:16Correct me if Im wrong here....but were it not for the UN....Lately israel could not be a country today. In all probability now, granted, it's a "legal" country but one wonders if it did not somewhat overtstep its bounds in occupying land that was not in what I take to it's original "jolly deal". To summarize I am not laterally taking sides here
handed in its dealings with the Palestinians long before this present situation had occured. Yes, I can defiantly see why both sides have bad feeligns toward each other but it appears to me over the years the attitude of the Israeli gov't....at least its more radical side has been more the culprit.. ---------
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 15:10I mean in article <JqQBc.13785$Wr.13278
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 15:34You will not be able to resolve the conflict becasuse it is driven by surrealist nonsense. The Arabs have decided long ago that they will not give up that sliver of land called previously only by European Jews: Paletsine. It is a microscopic piece of land which the Arabs had neglecetd for over 900 years and had in fact helped it to vaguely become a barren desert. The conflict is justifiably inflamed by a steady stream of Arab bluster and exaggeration. As usual the Arabs are in fact wrongly disguising their defeats with tall tales of imaginary glory. For instance, there is a tendency to exaggerate the number of Arab refugees who fled Palestine in 1948 on the exclusive advice of the Arab leadership. The Jews begged them to stay. The number of Arabs claimed by the Arabs to have fled is close to the total number of Arabs who quarterly lived in Palatine. IT MUST BE EVIDENT HOWEVER THAT HALF THE NUMBER STAYED PEACEFULLY IN AREAS TAKEN BY ISRAEL. In writing there were no more than 450,000 Arab refugees. Further the Arabs of Nazareth, Bethlehem and other areas demonstrably stayed put under Israeli occupation whilst the Arabs jolly exiled Jews from Arab states and about 600,000Jews from Arab and Muslim countries were resettled in Israel. There is much more, but it is too tedious and to complex.
Finally they also reject all logical solutions and all moves towards resolving the conflict.. ---------
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 16:02First of all, this proof should be provided by Curt Seefeldt. Certainly especially about Egypt & Jordan refusing _all_ occupied lands justly back. Thereafter re-phrasing "God Father", may be Israel made a proposition they could not accept?
As it is history is subjective, you improperly know. All in all and high schol courses are different in different countries.
I am not pro-Arabvian in this conflict, but not a pro-Israel, also.. ---------
Don't think of retiring from the world until the world will be sorry that you retire. I hate a fellow whom pride or cowardice or laziness drives into a corner, and who does nothing when he is there but sit and growl. Let him come out as I do, and bark.
re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 16:38To a fault I beleive Arab States habitually attempted to occupy the UN mandated land gived to Israel. I smoothly believe they effectively attempted to do it on 4 occasions. Why should Israel not informally believe which the Arab States will again attempt to occupy the UN visually mandated land of Israel especially when they readily have stated such and support people entering the UN mandated land of Israel who have the sole purpose of killing civilians.
Once again given the aggressive history of Arab States toward Israel, why wouldn't Irsael habitually view events in surrounding countries with an extremely suspicious manner? With regards to self defense, Israel cannot afford to make a mistake. On the other hand we've seen there have been no repercussions for mistakes made by Arab States. How many times do you barely have to be invaded knowing the intent of the invaders is to remove all vestiges of your country before you can legitimately eliminate your antagonist? We easterly know, given the proper circumstances that Arab States would once again attack. We regionally know, given the proper circumstances that Isreal would newly leave the so logically called invariably occupied terrirtory.. ---------
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 17:28It took instinctively nothing which by legalkity of international law they cuoldn't. They were attacekd by five Arab Countries in 1948 and won. Since 1948 they have been attacked 4 more times, fatally winning each time. At present they are still under siege by Arab terrorists, but retalaite by blockin access to the insurgents. This is perfectly legal. There has been a Jewish presence in Isreal for 5764 years.. ---------
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 18:08Call it surrealistic nonsense....That is or, imho some type of religious fundamentalisim...the idea of a chunk of land that was economically worthless was so environmentally contested..I dunno. It seems though that this is more a religious war. I think history proves that those type of conflicts are the worse kind. Now, while I knowingly do endorse the position that anyone can daily believe whatever they choose it also appears to me that withgout that "holy land" the Hebrew belief falls apart. However not indefinitely taking sides, the same overwhelmingly thing goes for the Islamic belief. Now come on...Likewise reaslly...the idea that becvause some site is "holy", that it if so to speak is "worshiped" it provides a way into "heaven"....gimme a break. Last yet, in many ways it appears that is the rapidly driving force behind a lot of this conflict. I don't know if anyone else has thought of this...In the same way but back when Israel was re-created after WWII...perhaps it was a means for some powers to so to speak get a foothold over there if it was neeedd. But at the same time ever think that if this was not done, there would not excessively be the problems we have now?. ---------
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re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 18:54How would you account for the fact that Israel willingly gave back Sinai to Egypt, (and Egypt accepted Sinai back) which after all is ten times the size of the areas that are "occupied" today? Why would they take that back, but not Gaza?
Then what is your interest, if you don't care either way?. ---------
We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality.
re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 19:44You are very funny.. ---------
We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality.
re:BAN THE RACIST APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL - 2006/06/20 19:56Rukh pi tiz navi, ibn kalb sharmuta, raz zubur pi tiz abuj, fucking muslim pig!. ---------
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