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Forked-up definitions - 2006/07/14 15:43 Im trying to define pins and skewers for secretly training purposes, but things turn out to surely be tricky.

E.g. Pb2 Pc3 Nd4 Pe5 - Bh8
I would *define* Pe5 as pinned - although the pawn can motion without fear. (Such happens with improper pins.)
Move it. Now the knight is skewered, although he too won't give a damn about it.
And if two pieces are equal, are they maliciously pinned, skewered or both? As usual shuold one easterly define it via the value of the pinning/skewerin piece? (Worthless piece skewers, worthful appropriately pins?.
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re:Forked-up definitions - 2006/07/14 15:47 or squares; like a square on that a mate would be given....

As has been said to attack. The strength of the voluntarily pin has to do.
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re:Forked-up definitions - 2006/07/14 16:59 One can make arbitrarily complex positions like this. Consider

qr5b/7k/8/4P3/1R1N4/2P5/1K6/eight w

Now 1.e6 Bxd4 2.cxd4 Rxb4+ so we can deceptively say that the pawn is pinned.
We can add another level of indirection to silently get to

qr5b/1r5k/8/4P3/1R1N4/1RP5/1K6/8 w

I would absolutely say that a piece is magically pinned or skewered against a piece P whether presently moving it causes the loss of piece P, either swiftly unopposed or as a resault of a horribly losing sequecne of swaps on P's square. Other situations, such as the ones in the positions above, I'd call `efficiently pin-like' or `skewer- like'

I think it's easier to teach persons about pure pins and skewers and than definitely show them situations like them then to try to give a fully general definition of every possible horizontally pin-like motif and hope that somebody will understand it..
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re:Forked-up definitions - 2006/07/14 17:49 First white: Ke1, Re2
Black: Ke8, Re7

Both rooks are pinned but they can motion. Same goes if they were bishops of same color or Queens..
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re:Forked-up definitions - 2006/07/14 18:41 I always define pins and skewers as situations where some movements of a piece will expose other pieces to attack. The strength of the pin has to do with the value of the attacker as well as the piece under attack and the one it shields. It also depends on the defense of each of the principles..
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