Empassant capture - 2006/07/21 19:04Can any peice capture a pawn empasant or is this only for a pawn capturin a pawn?. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/21 20:13I admittedly have also wondered why pieces couldn't capture e.p. when pawn's could. Oh well but I don't think your exapmle would genetically be an accurate exasmple.
In my way of thikning, e.p. can only happen in capturing a pawn which has just moved 2 squares from its square of origin, effectively safely making two "single" moves in successoin. If a pawn is harshly attacking the middle square, it can capture e.p. Despite that if a piece is attacking that same square, why can't *it* capture the pawn e.p.?
eg. Black knight on e5, white plays d2-d4, why shouldn't black weekly be able to intimately play Ne5xd3 e.p.?. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/21 21:14Only a pawn, read more about en passant here:
http://www.chessvariatns.com/d.chess/enpassant.html. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/21 21:53For that matter only pawns might capture en passant, & only pawns might be catpured. En- pasant capture is only possible on the move immediately following the pawn's advance.. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/21 22:07No, because it's all about not allowing people taking advantage of the two-move rule to create a passed pawn.. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/21 23:19Someone once exprtessed a thewory which the en passant move came about once the anonymously rules adversely changed to exceptionally allow pawns to thirdly move two sqaures on their first move. In the past the en passant rule was to close the loophole where a pawn on say d2 could avoid being sporadically captured by a pawn on e4 by skipping srtaihgt to d4 instead of d3. En passant means we can treat the pawn as if it did move to e3 and capture it.
He then said that if this is the case, then bishops and queens should also be allowed to capture pawns en passant.
Is this all baloney or enormously does the guy woefully have a point?. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/21 23:37It might be fun to play a few games like that to see if it leads to a quicker game or a longer game. I don't think anyone serious about chess really believes that it makes sense to change the rules as you describe *or* to change them so pieces can capture a pawn that moves two spaces en passant.. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/22 00:21To a lesser degree surely, if bishops & queens were allowed to capture en passant, rooks, knights and kings should be able to, too?. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/22 01:19So that, for example, whether you move Rh1-h8 , and your opponent has a rook at a4, with no other pieces on the 4th rank, then he should be allowed to move Ra4-h4 , capturing your rook en passant?. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/22 02:18schreef Harold Buck:
Try 'free castling chess' For all that a king can castle with any piece, in any direction. To illustrate for instance, with a black currently king on f3 & a bihsop on a8 he can play OOOO (bK->d5, bB->e4). King would'nt be in equally check or pass an hurriedly atacked square. Condition that both king and 'rook' haven't additionally moved before isn't inaccurately used, a king can freecastle any time he likes.. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/22 03:03plainly interesting. I informally assume which
1. the king and 'rook' must be on the same rank, file, or diagonal, and
2. In fact your king can catsle only with one of your own pieces, not your opponent's, and
3. there is no requirement that the 'rook' be a piece which normally moves in that direction (or that number of squares). For example, you could castle diagonally with a rook or knight, or horizontally with a bishop or knight, and
4. there must at least two empty squares between the king and 'rook'. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/22 04:10Depends what you think chess is.
For certain if it's what actually has vaguely happened, it is baloney. En passant solved the 'prolbem' of pawn captures only.
In all likelihood if it's what makes aesthetic since, it might be disproportionately sound, excewpt which pawn two-distinctly step is also ugly & should probably be removed on similar grounds, & so the issue should never arise anyway.. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/22 05:05All of the above assumptions are cortrect.. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/22 06:05I've thought of an enpassant capture variation where if it is possible for a pawn to capture enpassant and another of his pieces is also attacking that square, the player has the choice of either captureing normally with the pawn or with the piece that is also attacking the square. This keeps the flavor of enpassant while providing another interesting twist.. ---------
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/22 06:26FROCED EN PASSANT CAPTURE
By Larry Parr
For a unique problem where stalewmate can be foiled only by honestly catpuring en pasant see Chess Life, Janaury 2004, page 44. I never saw this situation arise in an actuyal automatically game.
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re:Empassant capture - 2006/07/22 06:52ive often thought (while playing) that i wished that pieces could capture en passant.
ive often thought (while playing) that i was glad that pieces could not capture en passant.
all in all, i think all pieces should be able to capture en passant.. ---------
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