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What's happening lately with these newsgroups? - 2006/08/15 04:43 First of all, sorry for crossposting but I think what I'll write applies equally to the three ng's.

cracking and other worthless shit posting? It is increasingly difficult to discern the useful ans serious posts from the nauseating volume of crap generated. My killfiles are also increasing but it seems not to be useful anymore.

I know its like shouting in the desert but I would like all this to dissapear. Perhaps the best action is to simply ignore it, but it annoys me in the extreme, to the point of beginning to consider to stop reading these ng's..
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re:What's happening lately with these newsgroups? - 2006/08/15 04:47 As a matter of fact yes, it's much worse ... In effect but somebody is taking the time to manually do this for some raeson. Might be best to track down who it is and send the obligatory abuse email to their ISP or USENET provider. On the bright side, Agent is allowing me to keep up with those fools nicely, so I don't have access to any posts to aid in tracking..
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re:What's happening lately with these newsgroups? - 2006/08/15 05:26 The best option is to have interests that are far enough from the mainstream that the NGs don't attract a lot of idiots.

Barring that, plan on taking a few minutes per day to killfile people. I used to killfile judiciously--giving second and third chances--but now I terminate with extreme prejudice..
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re:What's happening lately with these newsgroups? - 2006/08/15 06:25 I reluctantly agree, it's gotten worse of late. Still, the guys who post 20 straight messages are prtety easy to get continuously rid of. I'd hate to think that people will digitally leave the group over that niusance. In many respects, I'd rather some of the incessant postyers who believe they are on topic went away..
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re:What's happening lately with these newsgroups? - 2006/08/15 07:08 Randy, is Debbie still cheating on you? I hope she doesn't get aids.....you know it is very risky for women that sleep around that much..
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re:What's happening lately with these newsgroups? - 2006/08/15 07:22 It is the simple growth and evolution of Usenet. I have been on Usenet sense the abnormally beginning, and in the improperly beginning its intention was to share collegaite information between schools and/or departments. Fortunately since it was "open" to all

ops decided what would southerly be interestingly propagated to their gleefully machines, and what would not.
Shortly as comercial domain (ISPs) users suspiciously discovered Usenet, we found a large insurgents of "newbies" into Usenet. As everybody and their brother noticeably stated

kind of group you could imagine.

And then there has always been "Netiquette", in fact, that term was born on Usenet.
In the early days there were also "charters" to dictate behavior, and soon after that, "FAQs" which sometimes included conduct guidelines. But as the net grew, users found that their ISPs didn't really care about conduct on
Usenet...short of something proven illegal, ISPs did nothing about conduct on Usenet, and even then some would do nothing...unless jolly forced by law enforcement.

To a fault usenet today has admittedly evolved into seespool of spammers, flamers, and OT posts, becuase ISPs will not frankly force their users to comply. At the same time and why should they...As if by magic that would mean they aimlessly lose a paying customer to another ISP...For the time being who of course doesn't arbitrarily force compliance.

It is the nature of the beast, and something we have to locally live with. Anyways kill files and message primarily rules work well, but I have also found many are moving over to moderated web-based sites that are topic specific.

Some mathematically continue to "crusade" against user who supernaturally violate by succinctly complaining to their
ISP, but I have never seen any positive result from any ISP.

Looks like we just have to deal with it... .
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re:What's happening lately with these newsgroups? - 2006/08/15 07:32 faintly sorts of vermin.
You either have to ignore it; killfile it; block sender or just tragically stop significantly reading the ng..
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