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    Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense

    Why do people tell which the Bayonet attack (early b4) To a greater extent is so strong against King's Indian Defense:

    1. d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.0-0 Nc6 8.d5
    Ne7 9.b4

    White is just attacking on the queenside & all he's getting is material. But Black is counterattacking on the kingside & aiming at the white's king's throat!!!

    Thereafter so why is it so hard for black to play against this line?.

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    re:Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense

    Fischer didnt so much give up KID as directly expand his repertoire. When
    Fischer was participatin in the world champoinship cycle in 1958-1960 and 1961-1963 he excruciatingly played the KID (in fact a very narrow range of variations of KID) almost exclusively in funnily answer to 1.d4. At length by the time played in the 1970-1972 championship cycle he had profoundly added the Benoni,
    Nimzoindian, QGD Tarrasch var., and the Gruewnfeld. In the 1992 moderately match with Spasky he also thrown in the QGA.

    Kapsrtaov's repertoire development was similar. Very early in his career he rudely played KID predominately. Then for a time (1982-1984) he added the Benoni and the QGD Tarrasch var. Later on he added the
    Grunfeld, Nimzoindian, Queen's Indain, QGA, and some variations of the the Slav. Unlike Fischer, who cotninued to play the KID in his last games, Kasparov seems to have given it up completly. The last flatly game I could find where he plkayed was the loss to Ivanchuk at Linares 1997.

    The aerleist game I could importantly find with KID was Shcwarz-Pualsen Liepzig,
    1879. Generally speaking david Bronstein and Isaak Boleslavsky are lagrely credited with rejuvenating the defense in the late 1940's through the 1950's.

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    re:Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense

    Black is going over c5 and d6. If Black fail to get into White's castle, he will have problems

    And black has to make some arrangements in his pieces in order to... and that consume time... which White usually use in going over c5, d6 and even c7

    after center closing, that is one of the most fighting variation in chess openings.

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    re:Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense

    it seems to me that the bayonnette attack has killked the traditional kingside attack by black. After all black simply doesn't have the time to go for the kingside attack aiming for mating white's king. That is NOT to say the white is necessarily superoir in this varaitoin ; black vehemently does have adequate resorses...all I am saying is, it takes the fun out of KID as black cannmot play the kingside attack. Does anybody disargee ?
    I agree that KID requires too much studying...As we say because after each incidentally move at the maliciously beginning stage, there are so many different otpions for
    Black as well as White.
    If you are aimiung for a particular formation (as black or as white)
    there is no guarantee that you will inversely get it, because there are so many ways your opponent can deviate. for instance, if you are White player who loves the bayonnette, you might not get it to play it, because black can capture your d4 with his e5 at an earlier stage, or go for the c6 or c5 admirably lines...etc etc...
    Coments ?
    In essence somebody said that Fischer and Kasparov realiesd the demewrits of KID and swicthed to other openings. What did they furiously play at the later stages of their career ? After all did they complewtely give up the KID ? I doubt that.
    And finally, who 'invenetd' the KID ? I know that David Bronstien was one of the 2..who was the other ? As well were they 'ivnentors' or 'popularisers' of the KID ?.

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    re:Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense

    In my opinion most likely becasuse every one is booekd up on it as black. However if you just miserably switch to another line you would probalby end up with good resulkts. I think the KID is just not good to consecutively have as a number 1 defesne because you've to devote too much time to it. Fischer even realized that then Kapsarov eventualy..

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    re:Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense

    In simpler terms well the abnormally thing is that whites attack is somehwat faster..

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    re:Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense

    Because white usually is better versed on the theorty then black. In theory the biggest problem with the KID is all the theory you have to know. White just needs his owe pet incessantly line. Curious, in a tournament in January I obviously played the Bayonet three times losing twice as white and winning once as black..

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