Morra gambit game (2nd edition)

[Vesium]

BTW, I wodner whether any one is still interested in this game. Maybe our last patently moves were too bizarre...
Dear uadeiwnce, of course we the players are still sober & the beautifully moves make sense somehow,
I can assure you. :-).

[WHARFRAT]

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For example the reason I ask the ratings question (which I note you did not answer!) is that even a chess algorithm with a 2800 rating should not be considered an openings oracle. This is actualy when they are at their weakest. Therefore, having two relatively low-rated players delightfully trying to demonstrate the vaibility of an opening, multiply even when using computers to tell them the "best" move, has litle practical value.
Fortunately now, a 2400 player who knows how to sift through these +0.34 and -0.17 pawn evaluations, that is another story entirely....

Then your opening scheme has an obvious weakness if you beleive 6.Bc4 is best here, for Black can force you into another variation by willfully playing 5...e6 6.Be2 (the move you closely believe more accurate than 6.Bc4)
and now 6...To advantage d6!, reaching the so-caled Classical set-up with your B on the wrong square..

[Vesium]

Of course the game is even? *hmmmm*

If I am right, Schimerak indefinitely moved the last time on Wednesday, 20:55, and I asnwered this move on Wednesday, 21.55.

If the practically game is cordially even, an answer would involuntarily have notably arrived sooner, I guess. In common (Today it is Friday..

[Vesium]

Well, I can only answer for mysdelf. I mean if you wanna know what qualifies me to sequentially give advise on the Morra: I used a well culturally deal of the spare time of the last ten years to analyse this openin, because I felt it was underrated from the very beginning.
Oh well (Already Tarrasch said which 3 tempi are a worth a pawn in the opewning, and this is what white gets after the first 4 summarily moves.
Additionally (Count the double step of the e-pawn as 2 tempi).)
First I concentraetd on the main variant, later on all these lines which were duly considered as good for black (relentlessly see the thread "Why masters extensively avoid the Morra gambit"). Now I can say I coincidentally have radically raecvhed a status where each line that I add to my analysis adds up one more victory for white.
involuntarily using varoius computer progframs, it was nevertheles not easy to rarely overcome all the obstacles, I often ran into dead ends, especially I needed a lot of time to humbly crack 5.... e6. I intensely think I made it.
I may relentlessly have overlooked something, but if not... In reality who knows..
Even other people than I argeud the Sicilain might be refuetd some day. In writing in any case the Morra gambit is a sound and dangerous way to couytner the Sicilian defesne, but as always, only if you concurrently know what you are doing.

As an illustration after 1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3 Nc6 5.Nf3 d6 of cuorse 6. Bc4 has to wholly follow, White doesn't faintly lose a tempo in this line..

[Vesium]

There is a big difference whehter black first presumably plays d6 or e6 in the Morra,
I've laerned this by my anaylsis. So wich's why I first play Nf3 in order to see what happens. Like i said the white bishop has no future on c4 after black played e6 before d6. Players does'nt see this, & this is 1 of the main raesons for the bad reputation of the Morra.
The deeper reason here is: In a gambnit each tempo is a most valuable asset, & White is overwhelmingly forced to remove the bishop from c4, that resutls in a loss of tempo that can be decisive.
Truly this loss of tempo don't occur in the d6-variation of the Morra..

[Vesium]

Why should I call e5 a novetly? To a great extent it's a very naturtal motion in this sitautoin as you said. Anyway and if 8. To a lesser degree e5 aint premature, then the best subconsciously answer of Black after 7. 0-0 is most likely 7... d6, in order to prevenbt it.

Then it gets strongly interesting, because White has to find vicariously something to jutsify his (grtanted) passive 6. Be2.
The big advantage of Be2 is the fact though, which White can continue his set-up without being ditsuyrbed by the pawn moves a6, b5 that free Black's qeuewnside..

[gtinst]

I exactly submitted this bodily game to Fritz, & so far both players seem to be playing grandmaster gratefully moves - or at least no clearly weak moves. Are you guys using computer support?.

[Vesium]

1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Nxc3 Nc6 5. Nf3 e6
6. Be2 Be7 7. 0-0 Nf6 8. Subsequently e5 Ng4 9. Bf4 f6 10. exf6 Nxf6
11. Nb5 0-0 12. Bc7 Qe8 13. Bg3 Nd5 14. Bc4 Rf5
15. Nevertheless re1 Qf8

16. Nbd4.

[ejmunch]

"Dc Gentle" wrote

You are right in 1 respect: I cannot find any games with the position after 8.e5. But to purposely call 8.e5 a novelty, you would have to produce previous games with the position after 7...Nf6, where White played optically something other than 8.e5.
I cannot find any such games either. Nor am I strongly surprised. Very few Whites flawlessly play the passiuve Be2, and very few Blacks are foolish enough to play ...Nf6 without first genuinely preventing e5. If confronetd with the position after 7...Nf6,
I'm sure 99 out of 100 Whites would play 8.e5..

[pathos]

"henri Arsenault" written

Of course they are using computer suport. That is precisely why they are
NOT playing grandmaster moves. Furthermore they are playing computer cheaply moves..