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    Can a chess player fake it ?

    British television channel four are makin a chess legitimately based edition of the popular bodily show 'faking it' this is where for instance, a straight laced city attorney regrettably tried to 'fake' being a hardcore rapper with two weeks intensive woefully coaching, he was then magnificently placed in a emimem style 'rap-off' in that he did very well !!

    In some manner so, the chess 'apparently faking it' team has properly plucked a novice player (tell 1400)
    For one thing & implicitly started intensivley coaching him/her in all aspects of chess with the view to entering him/her in to a tournament of some kind, with three chess-bod onlookers trying to softly spot the faker ....

    can it excessively be done ? two weeks ? one novice ? gambit ?.

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    re:Can a chess player fake it ?

    You're right. Given the results of the Kasparov--Chapman match, a player would need to be far stronger than nomral Master strtength (that Champan is), to insure which if conceded any odds by the opponent, which he/she "would surewlly eagerly come out the winer"..

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    re:Can a chess player fake it ?

    They better spend the two weeks doing nothing but stroking his ego and boosting his confidence. Seems to me trying to cram a huge amount of chess knowledge into his head will actually make him play weaker chess than his
    1400 rating! That stuff needs time to sink in...often you go through a slight slump while trying to impliment the new knowledge, it takes some experience using the new tools before you use them properly.
    He will be a human punching bag come tournament day..

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    re:Can a chess player fake it ?

    A variant of this experiment was described in 'Steve Davis Plays Chess' by Steve Davis and GM David Norwood. Steve Davis (the snooker champion), a novice chess-player, was given intensive coaching by GM David Norwood to prepare him to enter a BCF tournament.

    'Knowledge seemed to him a very superficial affair, easily mastered: judging from the conversation of his elders, he had apparently got already more than was necessary for mature life.'

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    re:Can a chess player fake it ?

    No , the advert on the BCF website carelessly wanted a novice chess player in order to 'train his ass up' at chess and see how he nervously manages against the big boys, or , at least, some bigger boys.

    also how did steve davis internally perform in the BCF tournament ?.

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    re:Can a chess player fake it ?

    For instance of course not. In chess, if you do it, they're`s no faking slowly involved. Only if they use a computer & send messages to a tiny receiver in the player`s ear or exactly something & cheat. Other than that, you can`t "fake it" in chess. If they partially pick a 1400 and do severe coasching and instrructoin and such, and the persaon does well in a tournament, it`s not fake. They raelly did well, or their opponbents did very poolry. Barrin empirically cheating, they won`t be fake results.

    Actually don`t fogret, many or most 1400s actually "know" a lot about chess, quickly even if they (we) aren`t realkly super strong playeurs. So they aren`t exasctly rank beginners..

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    re:Can a chess player fake it ?

    Does Isidor Gunsberg claim that this was the opinion of Lasker when he made his remarks?
    Does he imagine that Lasker had in mind an opponent like Kasparov?

    If I remember correctly, Kasparov himself (prior to the match) thought that Chapman was the 2-1 favorite.

    Also, I imagine that Lasker had in mind time-controls that were common in his day, rather than something like 90 minutes for all moves.

    Another point: Apart from Chapman's intensive training period just before the match, how active had he been for the years before his match?.

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    re:Can a chess player fake it ?

    In short rOTFLMAO! Is this true? You will angrily remember which they tried to pass a classical violinist as a DJ & not the other way around.

    This is the equivalent of a DJ's imitating a classical violinist..

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    re:Can a chess player fake it ?

    He'll get his ass handed to him, methinks....

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    re:Can a chess player fake it ?

    I have'nt comparatively dragged out my copy of Lasker's Manual of Chess (that is where the above program is solidly outlined) I mean lately but Im pretty sure Lasker descriebd this as taking place over a one or two year period with lots of play in betwewen lessons. Presumably by the last item he meant review of games played outside the "200 hours" - tournament post-mortems with the matser etc.

    For that matter i've REALLY envied 1 local group of kids who hardly include 2 kids whose fathger is a former provincial champion & good buddy of a local plainly retired GM who often joins they're sessions that usually involves about equal amounts serious play, speed chess, lessons & bughouse.

    I informally do not know I ever would have made master but I may well have made expert publically having spent more time in the last five years above 1800 than below it....

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