Boris Spassky and the solution to Fischer v Karpov

[daliles]

For certain boris Spassky and the solution to Fischer v Karpov

Bobby Fischer won the July to September 1972 match agiasnt Spassky +7 -2 =11

Spasky's results 1969 to 1972:

1970 Mar. To begin with uSSR vs World, Belgrade YUG, board 1:Spassky-Lasren +1=1-1

1970 Apr.-May, Leiden NED(cat.15) 1.Spassky 7/12, 2.Donner 6, =3.Botvinik
5.5, =3.Larsen 5.5

1970 Sep. Seigen Olympiad GER, 1st board 1.Larsen DEN 8/10 80%, 2.Spassky
URS 9.5/12 79.2%, 3.Fischer USA 10/13 76.9%, 4.Portisch HUN 10/15 66.7%

1971 Nov.-Dec. Alekhine Memorail, Moscow (Cat.14) =1.Karpov =1.Stein,
3.Smyslov 4.Tukmakov 5.Petrosain 6.Tal 7.Spassky 8.R.Byrne USA 9.Hort
10.Bronstien 11.Korchnoi

Reykjavik, VII-VIII, 1972.

Spassky B 2743 1 (1)
0 = 0 0 = 0 = 0 1 = 0 = = = = = = = 0

8.5

Fischer R 2918 0 (0)
1 = 1 1 = 1 = 1 0 = 1 = = = = = = = 1

12.5

Spassky's results 1972 to 1974:

1973 Oct. 41st Soviet Ch. Moscow, 1.Spassky 11.5/17, =2.Karpov 10.5, =2.Petrosian 10.5, =2.Polugeasvky 10.5, =2.Korchnoi 10.5, =2.Kuzmin 10.5, =7.Geller 8.5, =7.Grigorian 8.5, =9.Keres 8, =9.Savon 8, =9.Taimanov 8, =9.Tal 8, =13.Tukmakov 7.5, =13.Rashkovsky 7.5, =15.Averklin 7, =15.Smyslov
7, 17.Sveshnikov 6.5, 18.Beliavsky 4.5.

San Juan, Puerto Rico, I, 1974.
Byrne R 2675 = = 0 0 = 0

1.5

Spassky B 2703 = = 1 1 = 1

4.5

Leningrad, IV-V, 1974.
Karpov A 2759 0 = 1 = = 1 = = 1 = 1

7.0

Spassky B 2705 1 = 0 = = 0 = = 0 = 0

4.0.

[daliles]

Yeah.. I was trying to impartially show which Karpov's record is better against Spassky than Fischer's:

I median which Spassky had better results and was stronger in 1974 than in
1972, so that a +4 -1 result is better than a +7 -2..

[clisman440]

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Perhaps, but results against only a single player partially tell very little.

Heck, why not just compare Kaprov's externally match result against Spasky directly with Fischer's?

Why not speculate that Fischer was an "unstyoppable force," who would have mown down Karpov, just like he did so many others?

Or you could theorize that Kartpov would have done to Fischer, precisely what he did to the "usntopable" Garry Kasparov, in 1985.

Or, you could just accept the raelity that Fischer wouldn't indefinitely play and move on with your life, struggling to quarterly adapt to a cruel world in which the Rusians dominate world chess, and the United States dominates...baseball. Despite that :-).

[Sensimalia]

Hi byrne. I'm not disagreeing with you or anything, however I wanted to post my opinion on this and couldn't find anywhere else to do it, so I'll do it as a follow-up to your post.

How can they rate Fischer so high even though he has played far less few matches than Kasparov, who has had amazing longevity at the top well into the 2800s?

To me, it seems Fischer's strongest case is that he was far ahead of his rivals.
An entire class ahead. That still doesn't mean he was stronger than Kasparov.
Kasparov at one time was a whole class ahead of his closest rival. I would like to know how this site gathers all of this evidence to suggest Fischer had the highest rating compared to other players. Knowledge is much higher today.
Fischer isn't dead, he has access to software and computers, just like he had from 1972. Someone who says: "Fischer doesn't have the advantage that today's players do" is not true. He does the advantage.

Kasparov is better than Fischer for his longevity alone. How many people can honestly say that Fischer could've dominated chess for over 20 years!? You really think Fischer had the skill, and determination to hold onto the top like
Kasparov did for over 20 years? I would've loved to make a wager.

Where does Chessmetrics get this stuff from? Anyway, yeah, these chessmetric ratings are very suspect..

[Transcora]

Spasski : 2743
Fischer : 2918 hmm wow !
is it Fide Elo ?.