DRAW or RESIGN - 2008/01/11 13:00At present, if one offers a draw, the move indicator stays with the one who offered it. I think a DRAW offer should be considered as a move so that the opponent immediately has to respond (either to agree or not). The person who offers the draw should be able to cancel it by moving. At present, if one offers it, he can't move at all (waiting for the other's response). One other suggestion: if one intends to RESIGN (or just DRAW), he/she should be able to do it even if it's the opponents turn.
DRAW or RESIGN - 2008/01/12 11:19One other suggestion: if one intends to RESIGN (or just DRAW), he/she should be able to do it even if it's the opponents turn
?? Really? That's not according to the rules of the game, no?
Re:DRAW or RESIGN - 2008/01/12 13:30Dame wrote: One other suggestion: if one intends to RESIGN (or just DRAW), he/she should be able to do it even if it's the opponents turn ?? Really? That's not according to the rules of the game, no? This is my humble opinion: you can resign any time (whether it's your turn or not). I guess you can also offer draw any time, although I think offering draw has more 'rules'. I hope a master of the game comments here, and if I'm wrong, that's fine and we have to follow that. I'll research on this and probably return here for a more thorough answer.
DRAW or RESIGN - 2008/01/12 16:21I read a little bit about this... It's legal to offer a draw any time but the opponent can insist that he make a move first. The more formal way is to make a move, then offer the draw before pushing the timer. But if the opponent just keeps on offering draws without reason, then he can be penalized for it (forfeiture). So, to translate this to online games, there should be a draw option no matter who's turn to move, and there should be a limit to the number of draw offers (maybe 3 times). Now regarding resignations: any player can resign any time, whether it's his turn or not. So, in online games, there should be an option to resign even if it's not his move. This may seem legalistic but it should make sense.
rule 9.1 A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on the chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent`s clock. An offer at any other time during play is still valid, but Article 12.6 must be considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects it orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or capturing it, or the game is concluded in some other way.
This is in fact the same answer as Charlie92 has given. Personally I only offer a draw after having made a move.
Post edited by: ChessTeacher, at: 2008/01/12 19:44
Re:DRAW or RESIGN - 2008/02/26 05:56Oh , I Get It Now.
It's been nearly 6 weeks and 2 days since I last , Posted to this forum.
At the time I was as I said new here. And I must say I was not picking up on Charlie92's vibe.
The real essence of this forum.
DRAW or RESIGN.
Far too , polite.
RID or DIVEST
More like.
This is an admin issue for sure.
If your opponent does not move for weeks on end . And your opponent does not respond to being messaged. About moveing , resigning , or drawing.
Yet each time you login that game is there under the it's your opponents turn. All the while that person is playing other games ???
It's easy to check login times. As well as the games being actively played. By that opponent.
Seems a flag system of some sort is in order. No moves 2 weeks > Flag 3 weeks > 2nd Flag
Month > 3rd Flag and arbitration.
Or an Icon could appear for players. Emails sent , like that , after say 30 days with out a move. If one player checks the eliminate icon the game goes away.
If both check the we is playing/thinking icon. Then thats on them and the system , would concern itself with games that are just takeing up space on the server.
THIS ! , Sounds Like A Job >>> For THE , Elusive >>>
Re:DRAW or RESIGN - 2008/02/26 08:24If your opponent does not move for weeks on end . And your opponent does not respond to being messaged. About moveing , resigning , or drawing.
As far as I know it - if your opponent doesn't move within a week the game is aborted and the player moving last pronounced winner.
Chessteacher could you please check this out for me?
Re:DRAW or RESIGN - 2008/02/26 11:42I'm not sure about how it is implemented at ChessCircle, but I think that to prevent that someone cannot manage to complete the game, we should have some adjudication guidelines which enable him to ask the admins to set a result.
DRAW or RESIGN - 2008/02/26 17:14I think the one week limit stands--I once accepted a challenge but that person didn't respond at all, and the win was credited to me. I guess there should be some other buttons there which are active whether it's your move or not (Offer draw, resign, abort, etc.). It might be a good thing to have an instant messaging also embedded in the games (probably placed on the side). That way it's easier to message your opponent...
Re:DRAW or RESIGN - 2008/02/27 09:33Hmmm to say the truth I have no idea where this is all about since softwareman always handled (and still handles) these issues. I will - again - inform him of this thread, so he can read it through and see what the problems are.
Re:DRAW or RESIGN - 2008/04/21 16:50I just lost a game because my opponent did not respond to my draw offer.
And I keep getting reminders for not moving when I can't move b'cos my opponent did not repond to my offer. I about to lose another. I think I will quit this site.
DRAW or RESIGN - 2008/04/22 14:23Protos22, I think it's better to send a private message to your opponents, informing them of your draw offer. They should respond.
DRAW or RESIGN - 2008/04/24 10:58That also is a VERY good tip. Thanks for that, Charlie - I overlooked that possibility. Still it should be fixed and am still waiting for the answer of softwareman, which will arrive soon, I hope
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